Why do we claim 1967 as a national title in football?

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We make fun of Bama fans a lot for claiming questionable titles, but I know we weren't better than USC and ou beat us in the orange bowl. Claiming 1967 has always been a mystery to me. Anybody know why?:hi:
 
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It's not complicated. It was awarded by Litkenhaus. Litkenhaus was recognized by the NCAA. Hence the national title claim.
 
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We make fun of Bama fans a lot for claiming questionable titles, but I know we weren't better than USC and ou beat us in the orange bowl. Claiming 1967 has always been a mystery to me. Anybody know why?:hi:

Just accept it and move on.

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These threads are starting to get comical. I only click on Beattie threads to watch the epic flaming that goes on.
 
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It's not complicated. It was awarded by Litkenhaus. Litkenhaus was recognized by the NCAA. Hence the national title claim.

what?

I thought the whole problem with all of this is that nothing is recognized by the NCAA.

If we all want to get technical, there has never been a national champion in division 1 football.
 
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what?

I thought the whole problem with all of this is that nothing is recognized by the NCAA.

If we all want to get technical, there has never been a national champion in division 1 football.

It was always mythical until the Bowl Coalition and later the BCS got 1 vs 2 at the end of the year. But . . . the official NCAA record book recognizes "championships" that were awarded from several different polls. When more than half the polls agreed, it was considered a consensus championship. That's the reason there's always a difference between claimed championships and consensus championships. [/dissertationcomplete]
 
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We make fun of Bama fans a lot for claiming questionable titles, but I know we weren't better than USC and ou beat us in the orange bowl. Claiming 1967 has always been a mystery to me. Anybody know why?:hi:

How can you claim you aren't a troll when just about every post/thread you make suggests that you would want us to be mediocre? "8-4 and 7-5 are ok" "we can never recreate the fulmer days" "we should claim less titles" This attitude is one that makes no sense for any true VFL to have.
 
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I can make it stop for you. Here's how: When you see a thread titled "why do we claim 1967 as a national title in football", don't click on it.

Hope that helps.

I was speaking more to the OPs threads. I'm on mobile and didn't see who started it.

Glad I could help you get your smart a$$ fix for the day.
 
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This. This was the way national titles were decided at that time. End of story.

The consensus selectors were already acknowledged by that point. Litkenhous has never been a consensus selector.

Yep. Various organizations had polls for a mythical championship that did t even factor in bowl games.

Litkenhous was not a poll. It was a mathematical system, kinda like Sagarin.
 
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It was always mythical until the Bowl Coalition and later the BCS got 1 vs 2 at the end of the year. But . . . the official NCAA record book recognizes "championships" that were awarded from several different polls. When more than half the polls agreed, it was considered a consensus championship. That's the reason there's always a difference between claimed championships and consensus championships. [/dissertationcomplete]

That's not what "consensus" means in this case. There have been four consensus selectors: AP, Coaches (UP, USA Today, BCS), FWAA, and NCF. Being selected by any one of the four qualifies as a consensus championship. Ohio State was a consensus champion in 1961 even though they only won the FWAA while Alabama won the other three.
 
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We make fun of Bama fans a lot for claiming questionable titles, but I know we weren't better than USC and ou beat us in the orange bowl. Claiming 1967 has always been a mystery to me. Anybody know why?:hi:

If you knew that much history regarding the 1967 season I'm pretty sure you already know why the University claims a title in 67? It's a bogus claim but everybody seems to do it these days. AP and UPI had us at like 8 or 9 at the end of the season.
 

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