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Old 01-18-2013, 05:54 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Yes but those defensive players in today's game are a lot quicker than in Favres younger days. Favres would get ate up in today's NFL.
I don't think that players today are that much quicker than 20 years ago. Maybe a hair, but not that much. If you went back to the 1960's, I would agree.
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:25 PM   #47 (permalink)
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What bothers me is that we saw this for three years. I don't understand why Cheney did not put his foot down thru the years to correct this. They let Bray have his way which did more of a disservice to him that may haunt him in the pros. He's exactly like Cutler. That being said he's VFL and I hope succeeds.
Zackly!!! Good-Bad-Ugly is right!

That's why I hated "no guts" Cheney...he didn't aggressively deal with Bray to help develop or build him up nor did Cheney put in place corrections for Bray's immature attitude.
If none of that worked Bray should have been
yanked out until it was fixed!

Great article summing up what
even I as a lay person in the crowd & former football Mom could see...
The coaching of our QB
was very very wrong...

We're moving on thankfully!!

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Old 01-21-2013, 03:33 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Good informative read.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:49 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:25 PM   #52 (permalink)
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This article explains a lot of the good things and bad things Bray did over the past year using the Georgia game to demonstrate.

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FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | Futures: Tennessee Gunslinger Tyler Bray
This was a very good read. I'd like to see young up and coming QBs take a look at the level of detail and expected technical work it takes to be successful at the collegiate level.
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I don't think that players today are that much quicker than 20 years ago. Maybe a hair, but not that much. If you went back to the 1960's, I would agree.
The difference is not so much the quickness, but the size. Back in the 60's, 70's, 80's, you did not have players like Clowney who is huge AND fast. When you have 260 pound players running a 4.6, it makes for a vicious collision.
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The difference is not so much the quickness, but the size. Back in the 60's, 70's, 80's, you did not have players like Clowney who is huge AND fast. When you have 260 pound players running a 4.6, it makes for a vicious collision.
That is true, but my post was in response to post #44, which said that Favre would be eaten up by the quickness of today's players. Their size wasn't mentioned, but you are exactly right about the size issue and collisions. The equipment is at least better than years back, so that might help a little.

When I was at U.T. in the late 60's to early 70's, the linemen were 205-240 pounds, and not terribly fast. Linebackers around 200-215.
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I'm not referring to talent, I'm referring to immature attitude.
I dont consider having a little attitude during a football game being immature. I like seeing a QB talk a little. Everyone doesnt have to have the same personality as Peyton.
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I dont consider having a little attitude during a football game being immature. I like seeing a QB talk a little. Everyone doesnt have to have the same personality as Peyton.
Attitude is one thing and I don't mind it either. Rivers acts like a complete idiot at times and looks like a 12 year old. I never said they have to be like Peyton. But the QB should at least act mature enough to lead a team. I don't see that out of Rivers. A lot of QB's have attitude, even Peyton.

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Peyton Manning and Jeff Saturday arguing on the sideline.mp4 - YouTube

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Phillip Rivers Flips Off The Jets!!! - YouTube
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NFL will run this clown thru the ringer. It won't be pretty.
You got that right. He's a mental midget, his role will be the pine for a couple seasons and then he'll be released. He doesn't even have a promising career in the CFL. There QB's are more mobile.
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I'd like to see Bray go to Dallas. Wouldn't take him long to beat out Romo.
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