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Old 12-09-2012, 01:45 AM   #181 (permalink)
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I think this may be the staff.

HC - Butch Jones

OC/QB - Mike Bajakian
OL - Don Mahoney
RB - Jay Graham
WR - Tee Martin (hopefully on staff)
TE/RC- TJ Wiest

DC/LB - John Jancek
DL - Steve Stripling
ST/S - Mark Elder
CB - Willie Martinez

Jones could keep his TE coach and not hire Martin because Wiest is reportedly on staff. I wish the NCAA would allow more than 10 coaches.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:59 AM   #182 (permalink)
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I hope TJ knows the beast he is fixing to try and tango with....
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:59 AM   #183 (permalink)
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If that is indeed the case...
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:56 AM   #184 (permalink)
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So he's bringing his dc! What happened to the best staff in the country!!
I agree. I was hopeful, when he said that. But bringing 80% of his staff from Central Michigan and UC is not assembling the best staff in the country. I understand him wanting to keep his OC, staff loyalty and all, but his DC and other assistants do not constitute the best staff he could assemble.

Why should he be given a $3mill budget just to give his cohorts a big pay raise? I'm trying to be optimistic, but if he simply brings most of his old staff, he should have never made that statement, and worst of all...he is giving himself and the program a steeper hill to climb, in terms of recruiting.

Randy Shannon can coach and recruit circles around his previous DC.

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Old 12-09-2012, 03:04 AM   #185 (permalink)
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We need a proven, big name Defensive Coordinator. Period.
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Old 12-09-2012, 03:23 AM   #186 (permalink)
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On the $3 million for assistants pool...is it possible that though it is worded as "minimum of $3 mil" that whatever is left could roll over each year so that Jones can lure whoever he needs? I really doubt he would be allowed to exceed the 3 mil/year by a very large margin as it is.
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Old 12-09-2012, 03:24 AM   #187 (permalink)
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Old 12-09-2012, 03:58 AM   #188 (permalink)
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:39 AM   #189 (permalink)
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Randy Shannon, please! Not sure what the problem was the last time around, but let's not settle on a DC hire, just because of staff loyalty.

Randy Shannon Rumored as Potential FSU Defensive Coordinator Candidate - Miami - News - Riptide 2.0

-"He spent a couple seasons on staff with the Dolphins, but returned in 2001 to become the 'Canes DC. His defense ranked in the top ten in the nation for five of his six season in the position."
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:05 AM   #190 (permalink)
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Sorry but It's NOT going to be the "best staff in the nation", because the best assistants (Or SEC caliber) don't coach "THE SPREAD". The defensive coaches who are the "best assistants" aren't going to come coach under Butch Jones until he proves his-self. The staff he assembles is just going to have to be the best staff In the Nation……that coaches HIS system, and they'll just have to do the best THEY can do, and "give their all for Tennessee"
That's fine, i look forward to having some hungry to win coaches who are going to push these players to be the very best they can be.
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Offensively I don't mind Coach Jones bringing in his guys. I believe it will help the flow of the offense and I especially will be on board if Tee is hired alongside of Graham. That would an awesome recruiting duo. Defensively is where I have the problem, they were 12th in scoring D but they play far less than superior talent compared to the SEC. Overall they were 44th in total defense this year not to great but way better than what we were. I believe we need to bring in a big name DC and the staff would really look good. His DC could be the LB coach. His position coaches might not have huge resumes but they are great teachers. When it comes to ST, DB I think we are upgrading. I hate we lost Pittman but I'm glad Sunseri is gone.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:35 AM   #192 (permalink)
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Offensively I don't mind Coach Jones bringing in his guys. I believe it will help the flow of the offense and I especially will be on board if Tee is hired alongside of Graham. That would an awesome recruiting duo. Defensively is where I have the problem, they were 12th in scoring D but they play far less than superior talent compared to the SEC. Overall they were 44th in total defense this year not to great but way better than what we were. I believe we need to bring in a big name DC and the staff would really look good. His DC could be the LB coach. His position coaches might not have huge resumes but they are great teachers. When it comes to ST, DB I think we are upgrading. I hate we lost Pittman but I'm glad Sunseri is gone.
Exactly. He is a former OC, from what I understand. So, it makes some sense for him to bring in who he prefers to run HIS system.

But, even with that said, he has to be mindful that recruiting in this league is more than just bringing in your guys and having them be good salesmen. They need some Sizzle to convince a 5*WR we were in on, previously, to forget about UGA, LSU, BAMA, UF, USC, FSU, etc.. That's what we had with our first WR coach, Baggett. Even though nobody ever heard of Dooley, they had heard of Randy Moss, Chris Carter, etc...and the coach who they played for in the NFL.

He's the reason we got Justin Hunter AND D. Rodgers (shame the latter didn't pan out). On defense, his staff is going to be selling Vanilla Ice Cream, while the upper tier SEC teams are working with Baskin Robbin's 31 flavors...so to speak.
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I agree. I was hopeful, when he said that. But bringing 80% of his staff from Central Michigan and UC is not assembling the best staff in the country. I understand him wanting to keep his OC, staff loyalty and all, but his DC and other assistants do not constitute the best staff he could assemble.

Why should he be given a $3mill budget just to give his cohorts a big pay raise? I'm trying to be optimistic, but if he simply brings most of his old staff, he should have never made that statement, and worst of all...he is giving himself and the program a steeper hill to climb, in terms of recruiting.

Randy Shannon can coach and recruit circles around his previous DC.
Business as usual for the Tennessee Volunteers. Average hire with an average staff.

BJ did not have to say that he was going to assemble the "best in america" but that's exactly what he said. Many people on this board were saying that BJ's first test was what type of staff he would put together. And that would be the first test to judge him by.

Well the staff is looking very average! His staff looks to be no better than a "C"! Of the coaches he is bringing with him I do not see any that can recruit, the big name coaches in the SEC and the nation. When you hire average coach you will get average results.

Maybe BJ will restore the mighty Vols to an average program! Well woopity du!!!
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People forget athat some of the best OC and DC out there started in small positions at smaller schools. They didn't exactly become famous and well known overnight at some major school...

Larry Fedora
1997-1998 - Air Force - QB/WR
1999-2001 - MIddle Tenn St - OC
2002-2004 - Florida - OC
2005-2007 - Oklahoma St - OC

Charlie Strong
1986-1987 - Souther Illinois - WR
1988-1989 - Florida - OLB
1990 - Ole Miss - WR
1991-1994 - Florida Asst - HC/DT
1999-2001 - South Carolina - DC
2002-2009 - Florida DC/DE - Intern HC

Will Muschamp
1998 - West Georgia - DB
1999 - Eastern KY - DB
2000 - Valdosta St - DC
2001-2004 - LSU - DC/LB
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People forget athat some of the best OC and DC out there started in small positions at smaller schools. They didn't exactly become famous and well known overnight at some major school...

Larry Fedora
1997-1998 - Air Force - QB/WR
1999-2001 - MIddle Tenn St - OC
2002-2004 - Florida - OC
2005-2007 - Oklahoma St - OC

Charlie Strong
1986-1987 - Souther Illinois - WR
1988-1989 - Florida - OLB
1990 - Ole Miss - WR
1991-1994 - Florida Asst - HC/DT
1999-2001 - South Carolina - DC
2002-2009 - Florida DC/DE - Intern HC

Will Muschamp
1998 - West Georgia - DB
1999 - Eastern KY - DB
2000 - Valdosta St - DC
2001-2004 - LSU - DC/LB
Everyone needs to realize these huge name coordinators they want either are super secure or unemployed and or looking for a reason.
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