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08-16-2012, 01:39 PM
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| Is Dooley That Bad of a Coach?
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08-16-2012, 01:54 PM
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| Nice read Andrew. Been saying a long time now, he came into as bad a situation as one could that didn't include sanctions. He has built a solid roster since he got here and this year I believe it will show on the field and in the W/L column. Also liked where you pointed out Lathers being the fourth lowest rated player in his class. Goes to show there are diamonds in the rough.
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08-16-2012, 01:54 PM
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| | Spike Drinks, Not Trees | Looks like you answered your own question by cutting and pasting the usual litany of excuses that get thrown up here without even mentioning the equally valid points that can be made on the other side. Congratulations! You're halfway home to engaging in real analysis.  |
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08-16-2012, 01:56 PM
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| Good read. |
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08-16-2012, 01:57 PM
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| Nice article but this isn't going to go well. I'm just glad to post on page 1 before it reaches 300. 
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08-16-2012, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by VolunteerHillbilly Looks like you answered your own question by cutting and pasting the usual litany of excuses that get thrown up here without even mentioning the equally valid points that can be made on the other side. Congratulations! You're halfway home to engaging in real analysis.  | Ouch. |
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08-16-2012, 02:00 PM
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| How could anyone know? We'll find out soon. |
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08-16-2012, 02:01 PM
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| | Spike Drinks, Not Trees | Quote:
Originally Posted by huskyvol | The OP's article is definitely better than that one in terms of grammar and using facts, albeit one-sided facts, rather than assumptions to support his conclusion. |
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08-16-2012, 02:01 PM
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| Even though I think Dooley is firmly planted on the hot seat, very good article. Made some good points. |
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08-16-2012, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by VolunteerHillbilly Looks like you answered your own question by cutting and pasting the usual litany of excuses that get thrown up here without even mentioning the equally valid points that can be made on the other side. Congratulations! You're halfway home to engaging in real analysis.  | So your analysis is "our" side has excuses and "your" side has valid points? Wonder if Grunden or Smart had Been the HC the past two seasons, with the exact same roster and injuries, what their records would have been. Oh that's right, them, nor anyone else wanted the job cause it was a total cluster f***!!
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08-16-2012, 02:03 PM
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| I think it takes great recruiting to get your program back to where it needs to be. Considering what UT has been through lately, it's going to take longer than two seasons to start getting recruiting going again. I think Dooley needs about 4 - 5 years, Get some signature wins, he can get it going. |
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08-16-2012, 02:03 PM
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| I learned more about the talent gap with your article than most. You brought up good points with Attrition, and the coaching change.
I'm going to play devil advocate. Dooley is not a good game day coach. I do not know if it's because of inexperience, or his coordinators. The team has seemed to be a little disorganized through out the season. It showed in the Kentucky game last year, the arkansas game, and other games during his time here. It's the little things that Dooley hasn't done right, and I'm sure he will be able to fix it this season.
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08-16-2012, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by VolunteerHillbilly The OP's article is definitely better than that one in terms of grammar and using facts, albeit one-sided facts, rather than assumptions to support his conclusion. | Thought it would be good to post the other article so both sides have equal grounds to argue(debate). |
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08-16-2012, 02:05 PM
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| There have been a lot of warts on this team. As HC DD has been "responsible" for treating all of them wether he was to blame or not for allowing them. This year will show if DD is part of the cure. |
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08-16-2012, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by VolunteerHillbilly Looks like you answered your own question by cutting and pasting the usual litany of excuses that get thrown up here without even mentioning the equally valid points that can be made on the other side. Congratulations! You're halfway home to engaging in real analysis.  | Those valid points usually simmer down to one... his record. Records are a function of coaches, players, and the overall program. To this point, Dooley has NEVER been HC of a team that was not in rebuilding mode. NONE of his teams at LT had been built up. Neither of his teams at UT have.
There are "excuses" and there are "reasons". They aren't the same. Point to record alone is an "excuse" to avoid any type of critical thinking and to satisfy emotion by drawing a conclusion before having enough facts.
I STILL do not know about Dooley. I have NEVER said he was destined for success. I have just chosen to have enough patience and objectivity to let him prove himself in a demanding but reasonable amount of time. |
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