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Old 08-11-2012, 03:37 PM   #76 (permalink)
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He had a good year at LA Tech. Won a bowl game and defeated Mississippi State in the season opener. I say that to say this, he can have a good year. but, ut isn't the type place where you can shine once every four years. it's not central michigan or iowa state. He's gotta knock off a top 25er and win a bowl game. Mike Hart don't play no games...7 wins and a bowl loss will result with the loss of either his job or chaney's...
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Old 08-11-2012, 03:46 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Has there been any indication as to why everyone thinks the juniors will jump? Any of them say anything?
Logic and history. I hope they stay but I'd be surprised if all 3 stay.
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:00 PM   #78 (permalink)
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I have read every post in this thread (Yeah I am bored). CDD is likeable and all but the jury is still out on his real talent as a coach at this level. I hope we win a NC so all of his detractors have to eat that delicious crow.

Not likely? I know but hey we haven't even kicked off yet so anything is possible. We have had our share of bad breaks (LSU & UNC) and even though our slogan in '09 was "It's Time" - '12 is really when that slogan fits! Nobody gave us a chance in '98 before the season so I say take it a game at a time. I am going to AL, MO, and KY games for sure to see 3 of our 14 wins!

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Old 08-11-2012, 04:17 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Sometimes I think it would serve some of our "fan" base justice if Dooley happened to win a NC this year - then bolt.
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:21 PM   #80 (permalink)
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Sometimes I think it would serve some of our "fan" base justice if Dooley happened to win a NC this year - then bolt.
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:26 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Sometimes I think it would serve some of our "fan" base justice if Dooley happened to win a NC this year - then bolt.
"Didn't want him anyway"
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:57 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Gruden won't come. He loves what he's doing now. Smart maybe but I doubt it. Smart is not the brains behind the Alabama Defense. A combination of Saban's leadership and Sunseri's intensity helped them become a great defense last year. Smart called the plays but Saban had his fingerprints all over that D. Acquiring smart might be similar to Muschamp in FL. There's a big difference from running a defense and running a team. I wouldn't be surprised if they took a run at Petrino. Honesty, it wouldn't suprise me if some boosters are privately courting him in as we speak.
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Old 08-11-2012, 05:08 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Only problem with all that is Hart was around when Saban was hired at scumland and saw how quickly a major program can be turned around with a great coach.

That's the harsh reality right there! I'm all for loyalty to the HC, but if the coach was say someone like Dave Clawson, would we be pounding the table to give him 3 years to build a team? It's not a fair comparison I know, but my point is, should a school have to follow the 3 year rule for every coach they hire? There's some qualities you can see in people that show up prior to that 3 year period. What if he's not good at game management, x's and o's, or his team has constant academic or legal issues. What if players keep quitting the team or refuse to give it all on the field for their team? IMO- these are all things that could get a coach fired within 3 yr period. Bottom line, quick results should be expected because coaches like Saben and James Franklin are proof that the right coach can make an immediate impact.
I think you're a Bammer or Candy fan in disguise. Saban went 6 & 6 his first year at Bama, Frankiln, well anyone with a little fire about them could change Candy (didn't see much). Same ole Candy. Saban didn't walk into such a mess as CDD did, and Saban has more fertile recruiting grounds than CDD. CDD has done a remarkable job of getting us to where we are now in such a short period of time. JMO
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Old 08-11-2012, 05:11 PM   #84 (permalink)
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I don't think he is sleeping on them if he counts us beating them as an upset. Which I find utterly hilarious.
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Old 08-11-2012, 05:38 PM   #85 (permalink)
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I think you're a Bammer or Candy fan in disguise. Saban went 6 & 6 his first year at Bama, Frankiln, well anyone with a little fire about them could change Candy (didn't see much). Same ole Candy. Saban didn't walk into such a mess as CDD did, and Saban has more fertile recruiting grounds than CDD. CDD has done a remarkable job of getting us to where we are now in such a short period of time. JMO
You might want to clean up that quote to avoid misunderstanding. Hman ain't no Bammer or Candy fan. Just saying.
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I'm hanging my hat on 9+ wins this year. I don't think Hart wants to hire another coach just yet anyway since that puts him in the line of fire. Personality-wise, I think Tennessee couldn't ask for a better coach than Dooley, but ultimately, the job requires W's. I'm bothered by the haters who seem to think there is an 'easy' button to restore depth, experience and tradition given the problems starting in '08. But heck, they're entitled to their opinion... even if they are wrong. ;)

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if petrino could win the national title at UT, would you take him, even though he cheated on his wife with some hot 20 something blond?
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[QUOTE=Tarkus;7044314]Saban is the best coach in college football. If the only way Dooley can survive,by your standards, is to be the best coach in the college game, he has no chance.

I hate to burst your bubble, but Kiffin would have had the Vols prepared to beat KY last year. My standards is not that Dooley be the best coach as you suggested. It's that he make the most out of the talent he has. Kiffin, Spurrier, Petrino, Miles, Meyers, and Franklin would have beaten KY last year. That was a loss because of lack of effort, not lack of talent. The players said it themselves, so did Hart and so did former Vol players. Our coach has to be up to par with the other coaches meaning he has to have them physically and mentally prepared. Last year that didn't happen. So your accusation that I expect us to have the best coach is ridiculous.

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^ R U serious? No way. What r u smokin?
I didn't say the team was secretly courting Petrino. I said there are probably some boosters who aren't on the CDD bandwagon that maybe trying to gauge his interest. Hey, that's college football man. If you think all the boosters are on the CDD bandwagon, you're smoking something!
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I think you're a Bammer or Candy fan in disguise. Saban went 6 & 6 his first year at Bama, Frankiln, well anyone with a little fire about them could change Candy (didn't see much). Same ole Candy. Saban didn't walk into such a mess as CDD did, and Saban has more fertile recruiting grounds than CDD. CDD has done a remarkable job of getting us to where we are now in such a short period of time. JMO
OK, let's compare apples to apples shall we? My comments were directed at a 2nd year coach, not a first year coach. Saban went 12-2 his second year in the league. Dooley went 5-7. Saban's 2007 team was not loaded when he took over so he had a mess just like Dooley did. In fact, that team was so bad they lost to Lousiana Monroe. I'm not expecting Dooley to go 12-2 in his 2nd year, but I can't say 7 wins will suffice either. I personally think a good coach could get 9-10 wins out of this Tennessee team. Saban could get 11
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