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Old 08-06-2012, 09:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Option? Wildcat?

I haven't seen much talk about it here. Maybe it's an unspoken rule or a vow of secrecy.

Anyways, I've seen the option quite a few times in the video and there's talk about some King guy running it. Who is this guy and where did he come from?

Also it looks like bray was running some of it as well. I'm not sure what to think about this. I like the option as an offense but I don't believe it is effective when you dabble in it. If you run the option year in and year out and perfect it, it can be difficult to stop as we have seen in the past but just throwing it in here and there with the wrong personel seems odd to me. Now if were talking about installing a package for Peterman and spend the right amount of time to get it right, it could be useful.

Last but not least, it sounds like Lane maybe running some wildcat. What's your thoughts on that?

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Running a little option can be a great change of pace. LSU won the first meeting with Bama last year because they surprised Bama with the option.

As far as the wildcat goes, it's actually harder to block for wildcat plays than your standard handoff. If Tennessee's line doesn't show significant improvement in run blocking, I doubt the Vols will try to force the issue.
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Running a little option can be a great change of pace. LSU won the first meeting with Bama last year because they surprised Bama with the option.

As far as the wildcat goes, it's actually harder to block for wildcat plays than your standard handoff. If Tennessee's line doesn't show significant improvement in run blocking, I doubt the Vols will try to force the issue.
The only thing that makes it harder is that the D will assume that the offense is running the ball. They still have to make the proper reads to stop it. So they could still be flat footed.
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I haven't seen much talk about it here. Maybe it's an unspoken rule or a vow of secrecy.

Anyways, I've seen the option quite a few times in the video and there's talk about some King guy running it. Who is this guy and where did he come from?

Also it looks like bray was running some of it as well. I'm not sure what to think about this. I like the option as an offense but I don't believe it is effective when you dabble in it. If you run the option year in and year out and perfect it, it can be difficult to stop as we have seen in the past but just throwing it in here and there with the wrong personel seems odd to me. Now if were talking about installing a package for Peterman and spend the right amount of time to get it right, it could be useful.

Last but not least, it sounds like Lane maybe running some wildcat. What's your thoughts on that?

I'll hang up and listen.
There has been talk of peterman running a more mobile QB role in certain packages, and there has been talk of wildcat packages. I don't know if King was just running the option because of the lack of numbers in the newcomers practice or not. He was an option QB in H.S. and he was still wearing his LB Defense Orange practice jersey.
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The only thing that makes it harder is that the D will assume that the offense is running the ball. They still have to make the proper reads to stop it. So they could still be flat footed.
Aside from predictability, the QB is taken completely out of the play, so you're basically playing 11-on-10.

Bama has run a lot of wildcat over the past few years, and Bama's linemen have said numerous times how challenging it is.
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Aside from predictability, the QB is taken completely out of the play, so you're basically playing 11-on-10.

Bama has run a lot of wildcat over the past few years, and Bama's linemen have said numerous times how challenging it is.
That just depends on if you have the qb on the field or not.... Some teams just take the qb out and put in another blocker/reciever.
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Aside from predictability, the QB is taken completely out of the play, so you're basically playing 11-on-10.

Bama has run a lot of wildcat over the past few years, and Bama's linemen have said numerous times how challenging it is.
Just send the QB out to the flat on the opposite side of the field. Somebody has to at least pretend to cover him.
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That just depends on if you have the qb on the field or not.... Some teams just take the qb out and put in another blocker/reciever.
Also, this.
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Running a little option can be a great change of pace. LSU won the first meeting with Bama last year because they surprised Bama with the option.
As far as the wildcat goes, it's actually harder to block for wildcat plays than your standard handoff. If Tennessee's line doesn't show significant improvement in run blocking, I doubt the Vols will try to force the issue.
Interesting. I thought LSU won the first one because Bama couldn't score any TDs and your kicker had a bad case of the Palardys.
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Aside from predictability, the QB is taken completely out of the play, so you're basically playing 11-on-10.

Bama has run a lot of wildcat over the past few years, and Bama's linemen have said numerous times how challenging it is.
In a normal running play you play 10 v.s. 11 because the QB is null after the handoff....

In wildcat the Qb is the runner so you actually gain an extra blocker...
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According to most, we have the 3 most talented WRs in the history of organized football, so dabbling with the wildcat or option has to be a little concerning.
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Get them running some reverses on some of the option plays.

I tend to agree, though.
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There has been talk of peterman running a more mobile QB role in certain packages, and there has been talk of wildcat packages. I don't know if King was just running the option because of the lack of numbers in the newcomers practice or not. He was an option QB in H.S. and he was still wearing his LB Defense Orange practice jersey.
Well that answers one question. I figured it might be Justin King but thought it was odd.
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