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08-06-2012, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by KnoxVegas  In a normal running play you play 10 v.s. 11 because the QB is null after the handoff....
In wildcat the Qb is the runner so you actually gain an extra blocker... | I can see what he's saying to some degree. The wildcat should be easier to run out of if you have some threat of a pass and you execute your blocks. |
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08-06-2012, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by fade route According to most, we have the 3 most talented WRs in the history of organized football, so dabbling with the wildcat or option has to be a little concerning. Posted via VolNation Mobile | In a way, this is how I feel. It seems like the odd ball out when it comes to strategy. It makes a little sense if we were installing a package specifically for Petermen but there's lots of video and pics and I haven't seen much Petermen.
Edit: I was just thinking that Petermen has been working with the newcomers if I'm not mistaken. So maybe that's the goal. King is filling in and Petermen will be taking the snaps when the two practices come together.
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08-06-2012, 10:29 AM
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| This is one of those things where I wish they would of left Teague on Offense... He was a really great running QB in high school and a natural play maker.. Moved him to DB and put him covering Elite WR's... SMDH... Marsalis Teague - YouTube |
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08-06-2012, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by supersmo18 Interesting. I thought LSU won the first one because Bama couldn't score any TDs and your kicker had a bad case of the Palardys. | Agreed, LSU wasn't lighting up the scoreboard or the off stats using the wildcat...They just hit every fieldgoal when they were in range, all 3 times. Bama hit 2 and missed 4. |
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08-06-2012, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by supersmo18 Interesting. I thought LSU won the first one because Bama couldn't score any TDs and your kicker had a bad case of the Palardys. | See the BCSNCG for a detailed example of what can happen when you are prepared for the option. |
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08-06-2012, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Nashvol2 Well that answers one question. I figured it might be Justin King but thought it was odd. | Yeah maybe just getting guys ready for Georgia State. While no one is expecting Tennessee to lose to them. Fast defenses usually even look vulnerable against the option. As its assignment based rather than flying to who currently has the ball. |
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08-06-2012, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by KnoxVegas  In a normal running play you play 10 v.s. 11 because the QB is null after the handoff.... | But if the QB is under center, the defense must give at least some respect to the pass. If the QB is out in the flat, the defense doesn't have to worry about the pass at all. Quote: |
In wildcat the Qb is the runner so you actually gain an extra blocker...
| No one is going to be stupid enough to let their QB do anything other than a minimal attempt at throwing a block unless the QB is in the Tebow mold. |
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08-06-2012, 10:42 AM
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| I noticed the pitches from Bray in the vids too. Don't think that's an option they're running with him though. I think they're just trying to get a wider split with the running backs. Can't see then putting Bray in any kind of run option. |
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08-06-2012, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Nashvol2 In a way, this is how I feel. It seems like the odd ball out when it comes to strategy. It makes a little sense if we were installing a package specifically for Petermen but there's lots of video and pics and I haven't seen much Petermen. | I'm not opposed to the inclusion and development of the package as long as it's a seldom used, purely situational gimmick. If we are intending to make this an offensive cornerstone, we probably have no ability to run the ball with our running backs in a traditional offensive set. I'm not concerned, but I am keeping an eye on this as more developments come out.
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08-06-2012, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bamawriter But if the QB is under center, the defense must give at least some respect to the pass. If the QB is out in the flat, the defense doesn't have to worry about the pass at all.
| Big plays are made when the defense isn't worried about the pass at all. |
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08-06-2012, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by bamawriter No one is going to be stupid enough to let their QB do anything other than a minimal attempt at throwing a block unless the QB is in the Tebow mold. | Who said anything about the quarterback blocking? He said the quarterback is the ball carrier, so the remainder of the offensive personnel are blocking. No matter what offense you run, a single defender must go unblocked. The key is for the ball carrier to beat that last defender. Quit making this more complicated than it should be.
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08-06-2012, 11:04 AM
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| IMHO unless you have someone that is a threat to throw the ball, the wildcat gives the defense an advantage. |
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08-06-2012, 11:07 AM
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| Pig Howard is going to be a beast in this offense. |
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08-06-2012, 11:07 AM
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| no more damn wildcat...cost us the kentucky game... |
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08-06-2012, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Yay4Bray Pig Howard is going to be a beast in this offense. | Would love to see a little something like this. or I'm not even a spread guy but it seems to me we have the personel to run a little more out of the gun with 2 or 3 wide and TE's and HB's shifting in and out of the backfield.
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