As much as I hate to say it

[Carl Pickens]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

Since everyone seems to agree, I'll go ahead and say I don't think the Kentucky loss benefits us at all.

I'm not that familiar with you...but doesn't a lot of the posters here think you're a moron? Just asking....not saying

[BigPapaVol]

if we need something like that disaster to get the player to focus and play hard, there might some other problems. Wonder what those might be?

[Gator H8R]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

if we need something like that disaster to get the player to focus and play hard, there might some other problems. Wonder what those might be?

Suprised it took til page 3 to get a comment like this.

[Spartacavolus]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

Since everyone seems to agree, I'll go ahead and say I don't think the Kentucky loss benefits us at all.

big picture

sometimes some of the worst things that happen to you end up being turning points in sports, life, business or whatever.

We'll see. I just think we addressed things that we may not have, and other things were looked at more deeply, rather than glossing over.

If a person or coach don't take anything positive from a huge negative, it's an even bigger mistake.

[Carl Pickens]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

if we need something like that disaster to get the player to focus and play hard, there might some other problems. Wonder what those might be?

Some better personnel and a little quality depth....

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by Gator H8R

Suprised it took til page 3 to get a comment like this.

why?

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by Carl Pickens

Some better personnel and a little quality depth....

how do those have anything to do with the implications of the OP's message, except that you're going out of your way to avoid the obvious?

[TOP]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

Since everyone seems to agree, I'll go ahead and say I don't think the Kentucky loss benefits us at all.

What if Sal ends up being a lot better than Wilcox and losing to Kentucky is the only reason Wilcox left? Don't know if Sal will be any better but for all we know, he could be and Wilcox might still be here had we gone 7-6 with a Kentucky/bowl win.

[Spartacavolus]

I wouldn't say it was the best thing, but this years team will benefit more from that loss than they would have a W. Coaches and players.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by TOP

What if Sal ends up being a lot better than Wilcox and losing to Kentucky is the only reason Wilcox left? Don't know if Sal will be any better but for all we know, he could be and Wilcox might still be here had we gone 7-6 with a Kentucky/bowl win.

while we're playing hypothetical la la land, what if we didn't lose any?

[Gator H8R]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

why?

Just some of the outlook on this board I expected that line. Its kind of hard to get fired up when your 5-6 for a game you think should be in the bag. Should these guys been going all out 110% all game, yes, but not every player is a Nick Reveiz and gives 110% no matter the down, distance, or circumstance. Thats actually somewhat rare now a days. Thanks to all the recruiting rankings we have now, kids are going to think they dont have to bust their ass to win since they were a 5* recruit, IMO.

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by TOP

What if Sal ends up being a lot better than Wilcox and losing to Kentucky is the only reason Wilcox left? Don't know if Sal will be any better but for all we know, he could be and Wilcox might still be here had we gone 7-6 with a Kentucky/bowl win.

I suppose it's possible that the loss benefits us if all the changes turn out to be great. I'm not betting on it, though.

I don't think Sal will be better and I don't know that Wilcox stays either way.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by Spartacavolus

I wouldn't say it was the best thing, but this years team will benefit more from that loss than they would have a W. Coaches and players.

so missing a month of bowl prep was a better thing?

[fade route]

KY loss was a harbinger of 1 of 2 things. Either it will galvanize the team and they will be stronger for it, or it showed a glaring lack of character and leadership from a team that found a way to quit even with a bowl and a streak on the line. We will find out when this team gets smacked in the mouth at some point this year.
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[Carl Pickens]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

how do those have anything to do with the implications of the OP's message, except that you're going out of your way to avoid the obvious?

I'm not avoiding the obvious any more than you're trying to say it was ALL Dooley's fault. I'm saying the team was young...thin...beat up...playing with an injured and sick QB and that if they had a few additional quality players and some decent depth they may not have been as beat up and physically drained as they appeared to be.