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08-03-2012, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Cartervol  Preseason talk is cheap. Always has been. Losing to a putrid Kentucky team in my mind really can't be spun positively. Let's just call it the lowest of the lows and hope they don't get to that point again. | I see your point about KY, but IF you truly are a competitor and get your ass handed to you by an inferior opponent it's a very motivational experience. Nobody worth their salt as an athlete wants to look like a fool. | 
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08-03-2012, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Gator H8R And I think it will return positive results in the long run. To each his own. | I hope so. This deal has been way below Tennessee standards for a long time. | |
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08-03-2012, 01:12 PM
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| I agree. | |
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08-03-2012, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cartervol They quit, Dooley lost those guys at the end of the year. Anything like that happens again and well you know what's next. | A lot of this could have been due to their youth and lack of on the field leadership....the physical maulings they took coupled with injuries and a lack of depth accumulated as well....I think the players were both mentally and physically whipped by the end of the year | |
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08-03-2012, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Pickens A lot of this could have been due to their youth and lack of on the field leadership....the physical maulings they took coupled with injuries and a lack of depth accumulated as well....I think the players were both mentally and physically whipped by the end of the year | This is kind of what I thought about. There wasnt anyone on the field punching these guys in the helmet telling them to get their asses in gear. It would have been nice to have Nick Reveiz in that game. Bet he would have set some asses straight. | |
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08-03-2012, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Pickens A lot of this could have been due to their youth and lack of on the field leadership....the physical maulings they took coupled with injuries and a lack of depth accumulated as well....I think the players were both mentally and physically whipped by the end of the year | I'm sure a lot of that factored in. | |
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08-03-2012, 01:21 PM
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| It's a new year. Deeper more talented team. Dooley's best team. He better take full advantage of it. | |
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08-03-2012, 01:21 PM
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| The Kentucky loss sucked, but I agree with the OP and with Derek Dooley - may have been the best thing that happened to us. | |
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08-03-2012, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by vol2002 The Kentucky loss sucked, but I agree with the OP and with Derek Dooley - may have been the best thing that happened to us. | I was just as mad and butthurt as anyone else on here. I broke numerous things around my house and didnt speak until the following Tuesday. But, once I cooled off I figured it couldnt go on forever and that maybe the embarrasment these kids got from it would pick their ass up a little bit. | |
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08-03-2012, 01:25 PM
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| I agree. It happened. It sucked. It also led us to where we are today, which is a new staff with an upgrade in talent in at least 3 positions.
If we had beaten ky and masked some issue or even won a bowl, i'm not sure our outlook for this year would be as positive. I'm afraid we would have seen more of the same, as DD would have then been a "winner". With that loss, we had no choice but to make changes in every category of concern.
I still wish we would have won the game, but we didn't, so things were addressed that might not have been. | |
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08-03-2012, 01:26 PM
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| I agree. It happened. It sucked. It also led us to where we are today, which is a new staff with an upgrade in talent in at least 3 positions.
If we had beaten ky and masked some issue or even won a bowl, i'm not sure our outlook for this year would be as positive. I'm afraid we would have seen more of the same, but DD would have then been a "winner" in some people's eyes, though the product would have still pretty much sucked. With that loss, we had no choice but to make changes in every category of concern.
I still wish we would have won the game, but we didn't, so things were addressed that might not have been. | |
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08-03-2012, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Spartacavolus I agree. It happened. It sucked. It also led us to where we are today, which is a new staff with an upgrade in talent in at least 3 positions.
If we had beaten ky and masked some issue or even won a bowl, i'm not sure our outlook for this year would be as positive. I'm afraid we would have seen more of the same, as DD would have then been a "winner". With that loss, we had no choice but to make changes in every category of concern.
I still wish we would have won the game, but we didn't, so things were addressed that might not have been. | Spot on, IMO. | |
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08-03-2012, 01:27 PM
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08-03-2012, 01:27 PM
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| Since everyone seems to agree, I'll go ahead and say I don't think the Kentucky loss benefits us at all.
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08-03-2012, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cartervol It's a new year. Deeper more talented team. Dooley's best team. He better take full advantage of it. | I agree....I think if they had stayed healthy last year much of the anti-Dooley hype wouldn't have occurred. Once Bray went down the Vols were like fresh meat in a tiger cage | |
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