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Old 07-12-2012, 10:56 AM   #31 (permalink)
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And just as a side note, if Alabama had lost Richardson, McCarron, and Maze last year they would have lost at least 3 games. But what exactly does that prove except Bama still would've had a decent year but with major injuries would've had a 2-3 game shift in record just like TN did.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:57 AM   #32 (permalink)
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It's hard not to see that Tennessee is still those same 3 or 4 injuries from history repeating itself. Much of winning is invoking your will, inspite of circumstance. Another, is that winning teams get better, as a team, as the season progresses. Did NOT happen. Vandy and Kentucky did not play the same team that showed up for Cincy and in Gainesville, with effort or purpose.
I'm inclined to agree on those final two games, and it has been well documented that the lockerroom was divided. I think the real team was the one before Bray's injury that was playing great football. The team didn' t have the support for Simms that was necessary, and Worley wasn't ready. If teams didn't mature, Vanderbilt would have had two wins, you guys would have lost three games, and South Carolina would still be one of the worst programs in the conference. Teams, players, and coaches mature and develop, and that is my expectation for this team.
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"Most improved" articles are always won by the team that has previously fallen to the point of being an aberration. Congratulations Tennessee.

After early preseason predictions concluded that the vols had enough talent to be a legitimate dark horse in the 2011 SEC east division, Tennessee proceeds to under perform to the tune of finishing last in SEC rushing. A whopping 90.08 YPG. That's good enough for 116th nationally and in a 12 horse race, finishing last but least.

Sometimes folks, there just ain't no where to go but up.
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:09 AM   #34 (permalink)
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"Most improved" articles are always won by the team that has previously fallen to the point of being an aberration. Congratulations Tennessee.

After early preseason predictions concluded that the vols had enough talent to be a legitimate dark horse in the 2011 SEC east division, Tennessee proceeds to under perform to the tune of finishing last in SEC rushing. A whopping 90.08 YPG. That's good enough for 116th nationally and in a 12 horse race, finishing last but least.

Sometimes folks, there just ain't no where to go but up.
you bammerjabbers need to stick to poisioning trees, when you try to be learned you come off slightly pissy.
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:11 AM   #35 (permalink)
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If you liked that, you need to look at this...Phil Steele

This is the actual updated page from the magazine and the per game averages are very telling.
#6 scoring defense.......
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:13 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I'm inclined to agree on those final two games, and it has been well documented that the lockerroom was divided. I think the real team was the one before Bray's injury that was playing great football. The team didn' t have the support for Simms that was necessary, and Worley wasn't ready. If teams didn't mature, Vanderbilt would have had two wins, you guys would have lost three games, and South Carolina would still be one of the worst programs in the conference. Teams, players, and coaches mature and develop, and that is my expectation for this team.

I assumed as much. No advantage in not hoping for the best. At this point Dooley is 0 and 2 in team improvement. And maturity is more than just getting older. We can all stay tune, no one really believes he'll live through 0 and 3.
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I assumed as much. No advantage in not hoping for the best. At this point Dooley is 0 and 2 in team improvement. And maturity is more than just getting older. We can all stay tune, no one really believes he'll live through 0 and 3.
Sounds fair to me.
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:20 AM   #38 (permalink)
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If you liked that, you need to look at this...Phil Steele

This is the actual updated page from the magazine and the per game averages are very telling.
He has us as the #11 overall defense in 2012???

I'll take it.
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At clinic this year during Q&A session, H.S. coach asked Dooley what to do if kid didn't want to do your S&C and have his own trainer. Dooley gives thoughtful, good answer about "having a professional dialogue with all parties involved." Anywho, Sal's turn to speak, he says, to the h.s. coach, "No disrespect, I tell the kid to get the hell out, but that's just me."

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Old 07-12-2012, 11:33 AM   #40 (permalink)
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At clinic this year during Q&A session, H.S. coach asked Dooley what to do if kid didn't want to do your S&C and have his own trainer. Dooley gives thoughtful, good answer about "having a professional dialogue with all parties involved." Anywho, Sal's turn to speak, he says, to the h.s. coach, "No disrespect, I tell the kid to get the hell out, but that's just me."

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I'm not typically a skeptic or cynic, but the running game and the OL are going to have to prove to me that they have improved. After all the talk before the season began last year...I'm very weary of this perceived improvement.

I mean, they can improve but still not be very good....b/c that's how bad they were last year.

Sorry for the pessimism....I'm not use to it. I'm typically very optimistic but damn....the last 5 years have tested my resolve.
I'm in the same boat, but if this projected improvement materializes, it should be much more fun this year.
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I assumed as much. No advantage in not hoping for the best. At this point Dooley is 0 and 2 in team improvement. And maturity is more than just getting older. We can all stay tune, no one really believes he'll live through 0 and 3.
Hating me some trolls bout now. Specially a freakin a Nick Saban slurpin bama troll.
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