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07-16-2012, 01:13 PM
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#676 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by justingroves Okay.
So you're saying Dooley was left with 3 seniors that play in the NFL and a TB that gained 1,000 yards but the program was burnt to the ground.
You're saying he had half of an OL and 3 future NFL players on offense waiting for him but he was left with nothing.
Makes sense. | You cannot be serious about the OL, during Kiffins tenure they never played for him. Remember during Kiffins time we started the 2 walk-on Sullin brothers and a freshmen coverted TE. The OL Kiffin recruited are the guys DD got as freshmen and if memory serves me correctly we sucked at running the ball last year even with a returning 1,000 yard rusher. There is plenty of blame to go around on our running woes.
If you think DD walked into a loaded roster with depth across the board you need to rethink that. Kiffin did more for Hardesty in 1 year than Phil did in 3 years. Between Kiffin and DD I would have to say that Kiffin got left more to work with overall than DD but thats not saying a whole lot. |
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07-16-2012, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by justingroves Dooley relied heavily on Stocker, Poole, Moore and Jones on offense in 2010. Who recruited them?
Kiffin left Dooley a starting RT, RG, QB and was a big part in getting Hunter and Da'Rick in orange.
What guys recruited for the "Clawfense" were still in Knoxville when Dooley got here? Cody Pope? | Kiffin was a freakin' disease for UT and he deserves no credit whatsoever for his recruituing while at UT. He ran off players and the ones he brought in have all left....just about...and the others were dopers and criminals |
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07-16-2012, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GmanTN You cannot be serious about the OL, during Kiffins tenure they never played for him. Remember during Kiffins time we started the 2 walk-on Sullin brothers and a freshmen coverted TE. The OL Kiffin recruited are the guys DD got as freshmen and if memory serves me correctly we sucked at running the ball last year even with a returning 1,000 yard rusher. There is plenty of blame to go around on our running woes.
If you think DD walked into a loaded roster with depth across the board you need to rethink that. Kiffin did more for Hardesty in 1 year than Phil did in 3 years. Between Kiffin and DD I would have to say that Kiffin got left more to work with overall than DD but thats not saying a whole lot. | Kiffin even said that things were going to get worse before they got better....and this was before he skipped town....he knew what was on the roster |
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07-16-2012, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by GmanTN BTW VolBeef, do you live in Knoxville? | In the biggest house on the biggest hill with the biggest gate in the front... |
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07-16-2012, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Pickens In the biggest house on the biggest hill with the biggest gate in the front... | Beef is Pete DeBusk? heck I know Pete
The guest house is only 10,000 sq.ft. Pete DeBusk's house (Bing Maps) - Virtual Globetrotting
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07-16-2012, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by GmanTN BTW VolBeef, do you live in Knoxville? | Not full time. I spend a lot of weekends in the summer at my place on Tellico. Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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07-16-2012, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by VolBeef88 Not full time. I spend a lot of weekends in the summer at my place on Tellico. Posted via VolNation Mobile | Do you by chance happen to own a Ford truck? |
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07-16-2012, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by VolBeef88 Ahhhhh look another member of the "true fan" police. How about this. It could be argued that YOU and your ilk are horrible fans because you accept losing and defend the loser no matter what. Blind support has a long and terrible history in all aspects of life. Posted via VolNation Mobile | Response to your repetitive post:
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07-16-2012, 01:51 PM
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| Originally Posted by justingroves Dooley relied heavily on Stocker, Poole, Moore and Jones on offense in 2010. Who recruited them?
Kiffin left Dooley a starting RT, RG, QB and was a big part in getting Hunter and Da'Rick in orange.
What guys recruited for the "Clawfense" were still in Knoxville when Dooley got here? Cody Pope?
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Don't forget Kiffin and his pet orge were on the phone telling recruits to not come to Tennessee even as the Kiffin training was leaving town. He was trying to drag his recruits to USC with him. Of all the things he and his staff did, this is the worse, lowdown, rotten, cowardly thing of all. The good thing is, certain players who would not have come here otherwise opted to come when LK left. But in the end, CDD was left with a shambles of a team to work with and after the seniors left, it was worse.
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07-16-2012, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GmanTN Do you by chance happen to own a Ford truck? | No. The only "truck" I have is a suburban for pulling boats etc. Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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07-16-2012, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by VolBeef88 No. The only "truck" I have is a suburban for pulling boats etc. Posted via VolNation Mobile | Someone in Powell drives a Ford truck with a front license plate that reads VolsBeef88 on it was the reason I asked. |
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07-16-2012, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GmanTN Someone in Powell drives a Ford truck with a front license plate that reads VolsBeef88 on it was the reason I asked. | Your ****ting me! The only reason I chose the word beef was by accident. I meant VolBeer88 but a typo made it beef. Haha I'm originally from Franklin. My parents still live there. Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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07-16-2012, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Spartacavolus You see, you have called me a liar many times, yet can't come up with the quotes you say I am lying about. Find a quote, or shut the **** up. |
i guess beef chose the latter, because after calling me a liar 20 times, he still hasn't produced the posts he is pissed about. |
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07-16-2012, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Spartacavolus i guess beef chose the latter, because after calling me a liar 20 times, he still hasn't produced the posts he is pissed about. | First I'm not pissed. 2nd You actually put the post DA. You tried to back track. Liar Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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07-16-2012, 02:08 PM
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