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07-04-2012, 10:26 AM
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|  Running game and checking to different plays at the LOS
I've read one of the reasons the running game worked better with Simms was because he was correctly checking to the right play at the line of scrimmage. Plus he didn't change plays in the huddle. Can anyone shed some light on this? Seems like an area Bray could improve and that would help the running game.
Also how often is Bray changing plays in the huddle? Anybody else remember Dooley riding Bray after the TD pass in the 4th Q vs Vandy? Seemed odd at the time, but in hindsight it came out Bray had changed the play in the huddle. Then it made sense. Was wondering if anyone knows how often Bray does that?
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07-04-2012, 10:33 AM
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| | Mythodical Validvictorian
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| I think it is something that is overblown. I believe we ran better at times with Simms because we couldn't pass with him. | |
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07-04-2012, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by thebjd  I think it is something that is overblown. I believe we ran better at times with Simms because we couldn't pass with him. | This exactly. | |
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07-04-2012, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by thebjd I think it is something that is overblown. I believe we ran better at times with Simms because we couldn't pass with him. | This. Next thread. Posted via VolNation Mobile | 
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07-04-2012, 11:24 AM
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| This is true Bray often checked into the wrong play in which didn't help the run game. Him being a junior and knowledge of the game will help a lot. Plenty blame to go around for lack of run game. This year will be much improved
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07-04-2012, 12:15 PM
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| The way a defense is aligned affects different running plays differently. Quarterbacking is intricate. The best quarterbacking is done at the line of scrimmage. Once the defense is read. Then you can make the correct play call. That is what made guys like Kellen Moore good. They know what their doing at the line. It tends to make plays look wide open. The novice would not know about or notice any of this stuff and thus is not qualified to speak on it. | |
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07-04-2012, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by thebjd I think it is something that is overblown. I believe we ran better at times with Simms because we couldn't pass with him. | How? If the other team knew Simms couldn't pass, wouldn't they load the box to stop the run? | |
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07-04-2012, 01:14 PM
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| Probably some truth to it. Teams will have to respect the pass more this year, that alone will help the running game. | |
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07-04-2012, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BigOrange15 How? If the other team knew Simms couldn't pass, wouldn't they load the box to stop the run? | Good point. It was obvious we werent going to strech the field with Simms in the game. So it was an easy call for their safeties to come and support the run. | |
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07-04-2012, 02:55 PM
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| If you run the ball 20 more times a game your bound to have more success no matter what the play call. | |
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07-04-2012, 02:57 PM
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07-04-2012, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NCVol1025 If you run the ball 20 more times a game your bound to have more success no matter what the play call. | Incorrect. | |
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07-04-2012, 03:00 PM
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| I know in the Florida game last year, we had a running play called to the right early in the game on a third and one I believe it was. Florida looked like they knew the play. They had 5 guys by the LOS on that side of the ball. Bray didn't change the play, and on the snap they were in the backfield for about a two yard loss. Watching it, it seems so odd that one would not change the play there. | |
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07-04-2012, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by onefesternation I know in the Florida game last year, we had a running play called to the right early in the game on a third and one I believe it was. Florida looked like they knew the play. They had 5 guys by the LOS on that side of the ball. Bray didn't change the play, and on the snap they were in the backfield for about a two yard loss. Watching it, it seems so odd that one would not change the play there. | That SHOULD come with experience, watching film, studying the game and learning how to be a "field general." We'll quickly see whether or not Bray has developed this skill. If he has, he will be damn near unstoppable. | |
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07-04-2012, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by WA_Vol Also how often is Bray changing plays in the huddle? Anybody else remember Dooley riding Bray after the TD pass in the 4th Q vs Vandy? Seemed odd at the time, but in hindsight it came out Bray had changed the play in the huddle. Then it made sense. Was wondering if anyone knows how often Bray does that? | don't know
but basically Bray can change to pass and be aggressive either way
bray can call the O cause of his skills...simms could not
simple as that man, ur done >>>> bye
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