Running game and checking to different plays at the LOS

[BigOrange15]

Originally Posted by UTVOLKeith

don't know

but basically Bray can change to pass and be aggressive either way

bray can call the O cause of his skills...simms could not

simple as that man, ur done >>>> bye

Stop being an a$$hole. No one thinks you are cool.

[WA_Vol]

Originally Posted by NCVol1025

If you run the ball 20 more times a game your bound to have more success no matter what the play call.

i thought we proved that wasn't true last season.

[Volinnooga]

Originally Posted by thebjd

I think it is something that is overblown. I believe we ran better at times with Simms because we couldn't pass with him.

I am not sure I understand this--if we couldn't pass with Simms at QB, surely the defense knew it and would be looking for the run. Seems to me it woud be more difficult to run with Simms in. Amy I missing something?

[BigOrange15]

Originally Posted by Volinnooga

I am not sure I understand this--if we couldn't pass with Simms at QB, surely the defense knew it and would be looking for the run. Seems to me it woud be more difficult to run with Simms in. Amy I missing something?

This is basically what I said. If you know they can't pass...load the box and make running impossible.

[justingroves]

Originally Posted by BigOrange15

This is basically what I said. If you know they can't pass...load the box and make running impossible.

Why load the box when the OL couldn't block 4 guys to begin with?

Defenses didn't really pay any attention to the run game because it was bad. They set back and waited for Simms or Worley to throw it to the wrong team once Bray went down.

Simms' best plays came when a breakdown occured in the defensive backfield.

[Nocleats]

Originally Posted by BigOrange15

How? If the other team knew Simms couldn't pass, wouldn't they load the box to stop the run?

They did, and they did.

[WA_Vol]

Originally Posted by justingroves

Why load the box when the OL couldn't block 4 guys to begin with?

Defenses didn't really pay any attention to the run game because it was bad. They set back and waited for Simms or Worley to throw it to the wrong team once Bray went down.

Simms' best plays came when a breakdown occured in the defensive backfield.

Simms usually took the sack. Worley was more likely to throw in coverage and get picked.

[LWSVOL]

Originally Posted by WA_Vol

I've read one of the reasons the running game worked better with Simms was because he was correctly checking to the right play at the line of scrimmage. Plus he didn't change plays in the huddle. Can anyone shed some light on this? Seems like an area Bray could improve and that would help the running game.

Also how often is Bray changing plays in the huddle? Anybody else remember Dooley riding Bray after the TD pass in the 4th Q vs Vandy? Seemed odd at the time, but in hindsight it came out Bray had changed the play in the huddle. Then it made sense. Was wondering if anyone knows how often Bray does that?

the Vandy incident was due to him not getting the play that was signaled in. He called soemthing in huddle because of that. He doesn't ad lib that much in huddle IMO.

he has struggled this far to recognize defenses and get out of a bad pass play and get into a running play. Would hope he is better this year but won't know until game day

[WA_Vol]

Originally Posted by LWSVOL

the Vandy incident was due to him not getting the play that was signaled in. He called soemthing in huddle because of that. He doesn't ad lib that much in huddle IMO.

he has struggled this far to recognize defenses and get out of a bad pass play and get into a running play. Would hope he is better this year but won't know until game day

IMO one easy area of improvement.
If he checked plays more often we'd be an improved team.
I always felt he came to the LOS knowing where he wanted to throw the ball and didn't deviate much.

[volomon]

Originally Posted by King Webbsticles

This exactly.

Sore spot for all of us, but do you remember Kiffin continuing to run the ball when it seemed stupid. Some way we would eventually start eking out the yardage and making first downs. We did have Hardesty I know, but I think a team has to feel that the coach is not gonna throw the damn ball even in a 3rd an 5 situation, We better start opening some holes, or maybe not.

[majic73]

Originally Posted by onefesternation

I know in the Florida game last year, we had a running play called to the right early in the game on a third and one I believe it was. Florida looked like they knew the play. They had 5 guys by the LOS on that side of the ball. Bray didn't change the play, and on the snap they were in the backfield for about a two yard loss. Watching it, it seems so odd that one would not change the play there.

I think the fact that everytime the QB went under center we ran. It was clearly telegraphed.

The sprint draw concept we employed out of the gun was a schematic joke . The backers hovered unblocked at the point of attack . If they diagnosed run , they attacked the gap...unblocked. If pass they dropped to a center cloud and forced everything to the out and up ...where they had easy coverage with a safety over top.

This concept of play , without a short range passing game and without a mobile QB to stretch the backers horizontally is a schematic nightmare in the SEC .

[Escape Goat]

Originally Posted by Volinnooga

I am not sure I understand this--if we couldn't pass with Simms at QB, surely the defense knew it and would be looking for the run. Seems to me it woud be more difficult to run with Simms in. Amy I missing something?

I'm not Amy, but t don't think you are missing anything.

[PimpVol]

Originally Posted by WA_Vol

I've read one of the reasons the running game worked better with Simms was because he was correctly checking to the right play at the line of scrimmage. Plus he didn't change plays in the huddle. Can anyone shed some light on this? Seems like an area Bray could improve and that would help the running game.

Also how often is Bray changing plays in the huddle? Anybody else remember Dooley riding Bray after the TD pass in the 4th Q vs Vandy? Seemed odd at the time, but in hindsight it came out Bray had changed the play in the huddle. Then it made sense. Was wondering if anyone knows how often Bray does that?

Ron Jaworski just explained it as he broke down Peyton Manning for his Qb list on ESPN. He described Mannings ability to read and understand coverages and how he gets into the correct running play (or play in general) based on his pre-snap read. Qb 101. Football guys understand.

[WA_Vol]

Originally Posted by PimpVol

Ron Jaworski just explained it as he broke down Peyton Manning for his Qb list on ESPN. He described Mannings ability to read and understand coverages and how he gets into the correct running play (or play in general) based on his pre-snap read. Qb 101. Football guys understand.

That was exactly who I had in mind, when I thinking about a QB checking to the best play at the LOS. Manning was the best at it.

[scvol@upstate]

Originally Posted by fade route

this. Next thread.
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totally disagree