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06-29-2012, 08:04 AM
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| I see it as a lateral change. The expectation for better OL play this year was already built in. Hiring SP didn't raise my expectation.
However, I did raise expectations for an improved running game just because of JG hire and the notion ML would finally turn it up field.
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06-29-2012, 08:15 AM
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| Supposedly Alex Bullard has been relegated to 3rd string for not putting in enough effort and James Stone has unseated him as starting Center.
I think this is a good move as long as Stone gets his snaps down.
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06-29-2012, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jasonvol18 He has the reputation as a good OL coach. We definitely have had better pass blocking so far under DD, but i think our guys will be very good this year and hopefully Lane steps up and overcomes the fear of his knee. Or just somebody at RB needs to step up. But Lane is the most complete RB we have and can be a beast for us. Neal could be too but scares me to death every time he gets the ball. Never know when hes going to put it on the ground. Im also excited to see the FR Rbs and also Pig at RB. Really excited to see what Bourque can do. He has the potentisl to be a good RB. I mean if LSU wanted him with their RB track record then there is definitely potential in him. | A good reputation according to who? Vol fans who think every time we bring in a new coach it is an automatic upgrade?
Because if you compare him and Heistand on paper, Heistands resume is a lot more impressive - UNC struggled to run the ball in the ACC. It's probably fair to say our struggles running the ball had a lot more to do with our offensive coordinator, youth on the line, and the lack of RBs coach to go along with average running backs.
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06-29-2012, 08:21 AM
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| | Eternal Vol Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Deep Woods and Swamps of West Tn
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Originally Posted by Bassmanbruno A good reputation according to who? Vol fans who think every time we bring in a new coach it is an automatic upgrade?
Because if you compare him and Heistand on paper, Heistands resume is a lot more impressive - UNC struggled to run the ball in the ACC. It's probably fair to say our struggles running the ball had a lot more to do with our offensive coordinator, youth on the line, and the lack of RBs coach to go along with average running backs. | An OC can only call the plays, its left up to the players on the field to execute. It is in their hands, whether or not a called play is successful
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06-29-2012, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CountVolcula An OC can only call the plays, its left up to the players on the field to execute. It is in their hands, whether or not a called play is successful | Scheme. And play selection - when you never run the ball you can't expect to be good at it. |
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06-29-2012, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Bassmanbruno Scheme. And play selection - when you never run the ball you can't expect to be good at it. | You play to your strengths
Why would we run the ball when we knew we werent going to be good at it?
Hell, you guys would be *****ing because we ran the ball too much.
I can hear it now
"Why are we running the ball when we got two of the best wide receivers in the game? Throw the damn ball Chaney"
It never changes
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06-29-2012, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by CountVolcula You play to your strengths
Why would we run the ball when we knew we werent going to be good at it?
Hell, you guys would be *****ing because we ran the ball too much.
I can hear it now
"Why are we running the ball when we got two of the best wide receivers in the game? Throw the damn ball Chaney"
It never changes | Where did I say we should've ran the ball more? Goodluck finding it because I didn't. I was saying everyone loved to bash Heistand for our lack of a running game when in reality he likely wasn't to blame and we ended up replacing him with a slightly lesser coach (except in recruiting) - but now that he's our coach things are suddenly better and he's a bg upgrade and our running game woes are a thing of the past. |
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06-29-2012, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bassmanbruno Where did I say we should've ran the ball more? Goodluck finding it because I didn't. I was saying everyone loved to bash Heistand for our lack of a running game when in reality he likely wasn't to blame and we ended up replacing him with a slightly lesser coach (except in recruiting) - but now that he's our coach things are suddenly better and he's a bg upgrade and our running game woes are a thing of the past. | Heistand wasnt a very good recruiter. I think that is one reason Pittman is an upgrade at this point. |
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06-29-2012, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CountVolcula Heistand wasnt a very good recruiter. I think that is one reason Pittman is an upgrade at this point. | I would much rather have an effective line coach than an average one who is a good recruiter at this point - especially if you're Dooley and your job is on the line. But Heistand helped get some solid linemen in here. |
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06-29-2012, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by WiseOlVol UT's starting OLine has 105 starts, which is 3rd in FBS. And they're massive.
Does Coach Sam have the skills to get these guys to dominate?
Or was he just the best OLine coach available? | It's sad when you ask a simple question like the one above^^ and you get roasted for not using google for the info.. when maybe the OP wanted OPINIONS!!!!!
IMO just Don't comment.
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06-29-2012, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BigOrange15 How would Google help? He wants a bunch of Vols fan's opinions. Don't be an a$$hole. | +1 |
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06-29-2012, 10:40 AM
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06-29-2012, 10:45 AM
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| | Senior Member | In my opinion, the impact of Coach McKeefry and the S&C program will have every bit as much impact on how well our linemen perform this year as Coach Pittman's tutelidge. |
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06-29-2012, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Brave Volunteer In my opinion, the impact of Coach McKeefry and the S&C program will have every bit as much impact on how well our linemen perform this year as Coach Pittman's tutelidge. | Toot-a-lidge. |
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06-29-2012, 04:24 PM
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| UNC's converted safety ran for 170 on us in the bowl game. UNC's freshmen RB averaged over 5 yards a carry & 1200 yards while missing one or two games last year.
Being upset Hiestand got fired is fine but Pittman was not the one who did it. Heistand may have been the best OL coach on paper in America but he is not here anymore.Like him or dislike him time to move on. Do not think anybody said the running game woes are a thing of the past.Think it will be a work in progress but some believe the coaching change is an upgrade.
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Heistand wasnt a very good recruiter. I think that is one reason Pittman is an upgrade at this point.
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So far I think recruiting has been an upgrade too at this point. Still have yet to see anything on the field - wish the season would get here already.
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