Tennessee Channel

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Originally Posted by knoxvols1

With Texas and the Big 10 having their own TV channel, what was the outcome of Tennessee and or SEC not having one? I actually find myself pulling up the BIG 10 network every evening. I've actually found some good documentaries on. Just thinking it would be nice to see replays other than the 92 TN/SC game!
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Not a VFL.

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I thought the UT channel was Jefferson Pilot......just sayin.

[Neyland Law Vol]

Didn't you hear - TN is getting its own ESPNU channel - here is the logo.

[DeerPark12]

Originally Posted by Neyland Law Vol

Didn't you hear - TN is getting its own ESPNU channel - here is the logo.

Don't start this again, I still have a headache from last time.

[TrueOrange]

Originally Posted by Neyland Law Vol

Didn't you hear - TN is getting its own ESPNU channel - here is the logo.

along with the louisville and villanova channels, right?


ESPN Is Launching 9 New University Channels, Here Are The Official Logos

(note to new people: link's false)

[TrueOrange]

Originally Posted by DeerPark12

Don't start this again, I still have a headache from last time.

i remember that thread
http://www.volnation.com/forum/tenne...ork-false.html

[WesternNCVol]

I don't think we'll see at Tennessee channel, but I really think an SEC channel would be really successful. The SEC has a lot to offer as a whole and has a huge following. I would love to see it, even if it only showed reruns of games and 3rd tier games that don't make it on TV elsewhere.

[Brooktrout]

Originally Posted by knoxvols1

With Texas and the Big 10 having their own TV channel, what was the outcome of Tennessee and or SEC not having one? I actually find myself pulling up the BIG 10 network every evening. I've actually found some good documentaries on. Just thinking it would be nice to see replays other than the 92 TN/SC game!
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No SEC school may have their own channel. The league owns the rights to all media. The league gives each school some tier 3 programming rights each season at its discretion. No SEC school can negotiate on their own behalf for any television rights with outside agencies. The league collects all television fees and divides evenly amongst the member institutions.

The SEC is launching an SEC TV network in 2014 in partnership with ESPN and CBS.

[TrueOrange]

Originally Posted by Brooktrout

No SEC school may have their own channel. The league owns the rights to all media. The league gives each school some tier 3 programming rights each season at its discretion. No SEC school can negotiate on their own behalf for any television rights with outside agencies. The league collects all television fees and divides evenly amongst the member institutions.

The SEC is launching an SEC TV network in 2014 in partnership with ESPN and CBS.

It's not going to be in partnership with both, it'd have to be with one or the other. Just because they each have rights to air the SEC's games live doesn't mean they're automatically involved with creating/planning/paying for a conference network; it's who the SEC decides to do business with here. For example, ABC and ESPN are the main contracts for the Big Ten, however the Big Ten Network is made in partnership with Fox Sports.

Plus CBS and ESPN are competitors, there's no way the two would just agree to help each other and both work on the same network...

(in all likelihood, ESPN will be the partnership made/used at this point. Personally though, after how they've managed the longhorn network fiasco - yes, part of this mess was on them as well - I would much rather the conference go the Big Ten's route of using a 3rd provider, like fox sports)

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Originally Posted by Brooktrout

No SEC school may have their own channel. The league owns the rights to all media. The league gives each school some tier 3 programming rights each season at its discretion. No SEC school can negotiate on their own behalf for any television rights with outside agencies. The league collects all television fees and divides evenly amongst the member institutions.

The SEC is launching an SEC TV network in 2014 in partnership with ESPN and CBS.

Walt Disney owns ABC and ESPN.

[knoxvols1]

I know that CBS carries the prime SEC games but, man, I hate them! 15 minute commercial breaks and this is after TD's, extra points, kickoffs and every chance. Really slows the games down. I remember the good old days when ABC carried the games just like the 90 Fla game.
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[Brooktrout]

Originally Posted by TrueOrange

It's not going to be in partnership with both, it'd have to be with one or the other. Just because they each have rights to air the SEC's games live doesn't mean they're automatically involved with creating/planning/paying for a conference network; it's who the SEC decides to do business with here. For example, ABC and ESPN are the main contracts for the Big Ten, however the Big Ten Network is made in partnership with Fox Sports.

Plus CBS and ESPN are competitors, there's no way the two would just agree to help each other and both work on the same network...

(in all likelihood, ESPN will be the partnership made/used at this point. Personally though, after how they've managed the longhorn network fiasco - yes, part of this mess was on them as well - I would much rather the conference go the Big Ten's route of using a 3rd provider, like fox sports)

Yo, since you are into details man, here ya go:

The SEC is weeks away from restructuring its media rights deal with its current partners, CBS and ESPN, according to several industry sources, and in addition to talks about increasing rights fees, the conversations have also included more talk about a conference channel that could be ready for launch in time for the 2014 football season.

Conference administrators are expected to receive an update on the progress of those talks next week in Destin, Fla., when the SEC holds its spring meetings.

The 14-team conference has been negotiating with both networks this year after the SEC expanded with Texas A&M and Missouri. That triggered a clause in the SEC’s deal that allows the league to go back to the negotiating table with its partners, just as the ACC recently renegotiated its media contract with ESPN after its own expansion with Pittsburgh and Syracuse.

The bigger negotiation is with ESPN, and talks appear to revolve around an SEC-branded cable channel that could launch as early as 2014. ESPN’s current arrangement with the SEC—negotiated in 2008—pays an average of $150 million a year over 15 years.

When the SEC did this deal with CBS and ESPN four years ago, it was considered a groundbreaking agreement. The deals reset the entire collegiate media rights market, at least until the Pac-12 negotiated its massive deal with ESPN and Fox last year.

The original 15-year deal between ESPN and the SEC granted ESPN all of the rights that CBS didn’t take as a way to prevent the SEC from starting its own channel. Now, discussions on a conference channel, of which ESPN would be a partner, are running concurrent with the rights fee negotiations.

It remains to be seen if the SEC will be an equity partner in the channel, like the Big Ten, or if the conference will simply sell the rights to ESPN for an additional fee.

There are several different paths the SEC could take on a channel. It could follow the Big Ten model, where the conference is a 49 percent owner of Big Ten Network with Fox and shares in its revenue. Or it could go the Pac-12 route, which owns all of its regional networks. Texas, on the other hand, sold its rights to ESPN for a fee and ESPN owns all of the Longhorn Network.

The SEC is restructuring it's television contract, which may even give birth to an individual SEC based channel that would allow viewers to see their favorite players (such asTyler Wilson) from the division. (AP Photo)
All of those models are believed to be in play for the SEC, but any channel couldn’t be launched until 2014 at the earliest, when ESPN gets back syndication rights it sublicensed to regional sports networks operated by Fox Sports and Comcast. A decision on whether to go forward with a new SEC-focused network would be made by the SEC-member university presidents and ESPN. A final decision on a network will be made by ESPN in conjunction with SEC Commissioner Mike Slive and the presidents.

Sources think the conference will reach an agreement with CBS first. Those sources familiar with the discussions predict that CBS will wind up paying a prorated increase or slightly more to the SEC.

The network has balked at paying any type of significant increase, sources say, arguing that the addition of Missouri and Texas A&M does not change its deal.

CBS’s deal with the SEC, negotiated in 2008, pays an average of $55 million a year to the SEC over 15 years. A prorated increase would take the value of that deal up to $65 million a year. The SEC could generate additional revenue by adding more years on the end of the contract.

CBS still will carry the same number of football games each season as part of its package, and network executives are arguing that schools such as Alabama, Florida and LSU—not Missouri and Texas A&M—drive the value of the conference. Without additional inventory, CBS’s stance has been that it shouldn’t pay more solely because the conference added two new schools.

Clearly, the SEC can argue that the collegiate market has been reset since the deal was negotiated four years ago. The Pac-12’s deal with ESPN and Fox for $250 million a year over 12 years—agreed to last year—has been a game-changer for conferences that have expanded and gone back to the negotiating table.

The ACC and ESPN just signed off on a new agreement that took their one-year-old contract from an average of $155 million annually to $240 million, while adding four years and granting the network more games and marketing rights.

[TrueOrange]

Originally Posted by Brooktrout

Yo, since you are into details man, here ya go:

The SEC is weeks away from restructuring its media rights deal with its current partners, CBS and ESPN, according to several industry sources, and in addition to talks about increasing rights fees, the conversations have also included more talk about a conference channel that could be ready for launch in time for the 2014 football season.

Conference administrators are expected to receive an update on the progress of those talks next week in Destin, Fla., when the SEC holds its spring meetings.

The 14-team conference has been negotiating with both networks this year after the SEC expanded with Texas A&M and Missouri. That triggered a clause in the SEC’s deal that allows the league to go back to the negotiating table with its partners, just as the ACC recently renegotiated its media contract with ESPN after its own expansion with Pittsburgh and Syracuse.

The bigger negotiation is with ESPN, and talks appear to revolve around an SEC-branded cable channel that could launch as early as 2014. ESPN’s current arrangement with the SEC—negotiated in 2008—pays an average of $150 million a year over 15 years.

When the SEC did this deal with CBS and ESPN four years ago, it was considered a groundbreaking agreement. The deals reset the entire collegiate media rights market, at least until the Pac-12 negotiated its massive deal with ESPN and Fox last year.

The original 15-year deal between ESPN and the SEC granted ESPN all of the rights that CBS didn’t take as a way to prevent the SEC from starting its own channel. Now, discussions on a conference channel, of which ESPN would be a partner, are running concurrent with the rights fee negotiations.

It remains to be seen if the SEC will be an equity partner in the channel, like the Big Ten, or if the conference will simply sell the rights to ESPN for an additional fee.

There are several different paths the SEC could take on a channel. It could follow the Big Ten model, where the conference is a 49 percent owner of Big Ten Network with Fox and shares in its revenue. Or it could go the Pac-12 route, which owns all of its regional networks. Texas, on the other hand, sold its rights to ESPN for a fee and ESPN owns all of the Longhorn Network.

The SEC is restructuring it's television contract, which may even give birth to an individual SEC based channel that would allow viewers to see their favorite players (such asTyler Wilson) from the division. (AP Photo)
All of those models are believed to be in play for the SEC, but any channel couldn’t be launched until 2014 at the earliest, when ESPN gets back syndication rights it sublicensed to regional sports networks operated by Fox Sports and Comcast. A decision on whether to go forward with a new SEC-focused network would be made by the SEC-member university presidents and ESPN. A final decision on a network will be made by ESPN in conjunction with SEC Commissioner Mike Slive and the presidents.

Sources think the conference will reach an agreement with CBS first. Those sources familiar with the discussions predict that CBS will wind up paying a prorated increase or slightly more to the SEC.

The network has balked at paying any type of significant increase, sources say, arguing that the addition of Missouri and Texas A&M does not change its deal.

CBS’s deal with the SEC, negotiated in 2008, pays an average of $55 million a year to the SEC over 15 years. A prorated increase would take the value of that deal up to $65 million a year. The SEC could generate additional revenue by adding more years on the end of the contract.

CBS still will carry the same number of football games each season as part of its package, and network executives are arguing that schools such as Alabama, Florida and LSU—not Missouri and Texas A&M—drive the value of the conference. Without additional inventory, CBS’s stance has been that it shouldn’t pay more solely because the conference added two new schools.

Clearly, the SEC can argue that the collegiate market has been reset since the deal was negotiated four years ago. The Pac-12’s deal with ESPN and Fox for $250 million a year over 12 years—agreed to last year—has been a game-changer for conferences that have expanded and gone back to the negotiating table.

The ACC and ESPN just signed off on a new agreement that took their one-year-old contract from an average of $155 million annually to $240 million, while adding four years and granting the network more games and marketing rights.

First off, I'm wondering if I could get a link from where you're quoting. (That's not to say I'm unappreciative of you quoting/posting material from a source in response)

(and also if I misunderstood what you were trying to say in response to me here, my apologies)


But, yes from reading in this, what I was saying was correct. The two aren't each partnering/working on some mutual network.

The SEC is weeks away from restructuring its media rights deal with its current partners, CBS and ESPN, according to several industry sources, and in addition to talks about increasing rights fees, the conversations have also included more talk about a conference channel that could be ready for launch in time for the 2014 football season.

What they're talking about here is that, yes, the SEC is currently/going to be in negotiations with both CBS and ESPN, but that these are going to be meetings regarding renegotiating their current media rights deals with each of the network (renegotiating each of their deals with the respective, individual media outlet...including/heavily discussions about increasing rights fees). By including mention of the network in the first paragraph, the writer's intention is not to say that there are discussions with each/ the two (ESPN & CBS) about forming (together) an SEC Network, but rather that amongst all these conversations and negotiations, the SEC is also planning / has on the table this summer to be working on / negotiating towards launching a conference network (as per below)


If you notice a little further down when they bring it up again:

The bigger negotiation is with ESPN, and talks appear to revolve around an SEC-branded cable channel that could launch as early as 2014. ESPN’s current arrangement with the SEC—negotiated in 2008—pays an average of $150 million a year over 15 years.

It's the talks with (most likely) ESPN alone that will be made towards negotiations of an SEC network. They're (in this case) the ones with which the network would be made / another partnership negotiated, not through a unified agreement/support/payment of the two networks



And then there's even this part:

It remains to be seen if the SEC will be an equity partner in the channel, like the Big Ten, or if the conference will simply sell the rights to ESPN for an additional fee.

There are several different paths the SEC could take on a channel. It could follow the Big Ten model, where the conference is a 49 percent owner of Big Ten Network with Fox and shares in its revenue. Or it could go the Pac-12 route, which owns all of its regional networks. Texas, on the other hand, sold its rights to ESPN for a fee and ESPN owns all of the Longhorn Network.

pretty much was saying that they're not completely sure how the SEC network agreement will be set up - or even exactly which network it will be set up or negotiated with (which seems to suggest that it might just be "feel ESPN is the most likely candidate) - isn't really known or for certain yet, just that what is heavily expected is that the SEC will be spending this offseason discussing/creating their own conference network to be ready by 2014.

It then just goes into discussing the SEC negotiations with CBS and why it's believed to have stalled/ why a new contract number has yet to be released

[508mikey]

Originally Posted by Brooktrout

No SEC school may have their own channel. The league owns the rights to all media. The league gives each school some tier 3 programming rights each season at its discretion. No SEC school can negotiate on their own behalf for any television rights with outside agencies. The league collects all television fees and divides evenly amongst the member institutions.

The SEC is launching an SEC TV network in 2014 in partnership with ESPN and CBS.

what about PPV ?

[508mikey]

Originally Posted by knoxvols1

I know that CBS carries the prime SEC games but, man, I hate them! 15 minute commercial breaks and this is after TD's, extra points, kickoffs and every chance. Really slows the games down. I remember the good old days when ABC carried the games just like the 90 Fla game.
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So would you rather pay say 50 bucks to watch the game ? somebody has to pay