Population of each SEC State

[bluetick2]

Originally Posted by sjt18

In bottom line numbers, Tn has fewer black residents than MS, LA, AL, GA, FL, and SC. IIRC, it has more than KY and AR. That's a big part of the answer but not all of it. All things considered, TN STILL produces a disproportionately low number of high end prospects. SC, MS, and AL produce more than double the blue chip prospects on avg while their black populations are only between 7% and 25% greater.

CA, OH, PA, and other states with a low percentage and wide distribution of black residents have more of their white/other race kids become great football players. Demographics are a part of it but so is the quality of youth football. You can probably say that the average size of HS classes is a factor. Areas with higher population have greater competition and opportunities to play.

There are other states that perform just as poorly or worse compared to their demographics. NC, MI, MD, IL, and NY all have large black populations and produce relatively few good football prospects.

Take out the top 5 or 6 states, "the outliers" and you will see that we are actually pretty competitive. And if it makes you feel better throw out the bottom 5 or 6. Same results.

[sjt18]

Originally Posted by Brooktrout

If Virginia and Maryland are indeed talent rich states it does not appear to be reflected in the accomplishments of their Flagship State Universities.

Neither produces even close to the number of prospects they should according to populations and demographics. Va still does relatively well but they have the 11th largest black population in the country. MD has the 8th largest.

[TommyKnox]

Originally Posted by BOBeLITE

Racist IMO..

Reality not racism. IMO

[OrangeDog]

Originally Posted by 98utvols

African American population map of U.S

CensusScope -- Demographic Maps: African-American Population

This has been very informative.

now what?

[sjt18]

Originally Posted by bluetick2

Take out the top 5 or 6 states, "the outliers" and you will see that we are actually pretty competitive. And if it makes you feel better throw out the bottom 5 or 6. Same results.

Top 5 or 6 in talent produced or black population?

The top 6 in black population in order are: NY, FL, GA, TX, CA, and IL. By % it is: MS, LA, SC, GA, MD, and AL.

TN is 11th notably ahead of CA, FL, and TX.

[TommyKnox]

Originally Posted by Voldemonium

That's because they're basketball schools.

This is very true.

[98utvols]

Originally Posted by bluetick2

1st of all black players are better than whites generally speaking. Second, look at our pop. compare to Texas and Florida and you realize that the talent isnt nearly as bad as some would suggest, just less of it. Compared to the rest of the country we are actually one of the better states.

Maybe this year but on average we are not

[ERICtheBERRY]

The short answer is yes.

[Vols4us]

Wow - what a racist thread.

It's the development folks. Black or white or purple - whatever - it doesn't matter. Compare states with the most organized football leagues for younger kids. Then compare states that have organized football at most of their middle schools. Look at the states that start S&C younger, that have PE programs in their schools, etc. Then look at the BCS schools that have coaching staffs that actually stay close with their state's HS coaches. TN HS's do not place nearly as high a priority on player development in football as the states with lesser populations that are "talent rich." You have to train them up young or they find other things to do with their time. TN has a more balanced number of good football, good baseball, good basketball and good soccer players than many other SEC states.

[volomon]

Originally Posted by Brooktrout

How do they do it in SE Asia?

don't know, but the population is more that 7mi

[sjt18]

Originally Posted by Vols4us

Wow - what a racist thread.

It's the development folks. Black or white or purple - whatever - it doesn't matter. Compare states with the most organized football leagues for younger kids. Then compare states that have organized football at most of their middle schools. Look at the states that start S&C younger, that have PE programs in their schools, etc. Then look at the BCS schools that have coaching staffs that actually stay close with their state's HS coaches. TN HS's do not place nearly as high a priority on player development in football as the states with lesser populations that are "talent rich." You have to train them up young or they find other things to do with their time. TN has a more balanced number of good football, good baseball, good basketball and good soccer players than many other SEC states.

Development and amateur programs are a significant part. However there are "general" differences between blacks and other races. IIRC, black folks have elongated tendons and tend to carry more fat in their muscles. There's nothing "racist" about recognizing differences without making wholesale inferences... or establishing "value" based on generalities.

[Oskie Volum]

There's more people in the DFW Metroplex than the whole state of TN. By over 100k too. Had no clue. Crazy!!

[Spartacavolus]

Originally Posted by 98utvols

African American population map of U.S

CensusScope -- Demographic Maps: African-American Population

SEC is about size and speed.

Anybody else want to act like its not hard to get kids on the Hill when you look at where you have to go to compete?

[Velo Vol]

Originally Posted by OrangeDog

This has been very informative.

now what?

Make Kwanzaa a state holiday?

[Spartacavolus]

Our coach used to bring Melrose in to scrimmage, or we would go there, for a reason. And we all knew that reason when we played. Collectively, their team was bigger, stronger, faster and more athletic. They were also all black.

Let's not act like fools about the makeup of teams.