10 Coaches on hot seat. Dooley #1 SIAP

[GmanTN]

Originally Posted by JayVols

I DIDN'T say that. That's what I said. I was using your logic against you. There is no logical way one can deduce what you did from that statement. Phil deserved to go.

You have a hard time keeping up.

You were the one who bolded my statement on the support of Phils dismissal and followed it up with:
You just destroyed your arguement...end of discussion

Its kind of like how people will take a verse out of the bible and use it in the wrong context to their advantage when it really doesn't have anything to do with it.

I used the analogy on DD because it takes more than a HC to win a game, it takes players doing their job. It is the job of the coaches to prepare the team to win, it is up to the players to go out execute the game plan and that just did not happen.

General Neyland coached Monday thru Friday and come gameday, he watched and seldom made any coaching decisions aside from field goal or to go for it. Times are much different today than what it was back then but the remaining factor of coaching the kids and the kids going out and doing their job remains the same. Unfortunately for us we still do not have a roster where we can pull a player that isn't performing to expectations and have a suitable replacement.

[justingroves]

Originally Posted by JayVols

As have I. I am not just some impatient noob. I bet my life experiences rival those of sjt18....

Impossible

[DarthVisor]

Originally Posted by GmanTN

Yes I supported the dismissal of Phil, he had let the talent on the roster go to hell the past 5 years he was coach.

DD on the other hand has had to try to do more with less and for some reason some don't seem to grasp that concept. You are not going to win in the SEC with Freshmen all over the field, especially when we are talking about key positions.

I have been a fan of the Vols for over 40 years and have seen the good and the bad. Our roster was terrible and is just now starting to show an upswing. I do not pump sunshine nor do I bash DD but I do understand he is given this chance to prove himself and straighten out the mess he inherited.

The team quit on him. That is not a good mark on CDD.
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[JayVols]

Originally Posted by GmanTN

You were the one who bolded my statement on the support of Phils dismissal and followed it up with:
You just destroyed your arguement...end of discussion

Its kind of like how people will take a verse out of the bible and use it in the wrong context to their advantage when it really doesn't have anything to do with it.

No. It isn't. You said:

Originally Posted by GmanTN

What position was DD playing on the field when the team lost to KY?

I asked the following:

Originally Posted by JayVols

Did you support Fulmer's dismissal? If so, how many downs did he play in his last 5 years?

It's pretty simple. You used flawed logic to rationalize the position that Dooley wasn't to blame for anything that happened in the KY game. I asked if you supported the Fulmer dismissal. You said you did. I used the same flawed logic that you used to rationalize Dooley's responsibility re: the KY fiasco by asking how many downs Fulmer played his last five years. I used that flawed logic on you to highlight the hypocritical nature of your rationale. In summary, you are trying to use one set of criteria to defend Dooley while dismissing that exact same criteria in the Fulmer situation. Can't have it both ways. Consistency when taking a stance on an issue is central to one's credibility. You weren't consistent; thus, your credibility is lacking in this matter.

[JayVols]

Originally Posted by justingroves

Impossible

[Col_Cathcart]

Originally Posted by fade route

The most vicious posters on VN are homers when presented with an idea or opinion different that their own. Its kinda like politics in this sense: liberals love to preach about how intolerant conservatives are, but if you voice an opinion that's different than theirs, you'll see just how "tolerant" they are themselves.
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That political sword cuts both ways (cough defense spending/tax breaks cough) but that's a discussion for another day.

[Special Ed]

Originally Posted by DL916

At first I was upset because I thought there is no way this guy knows what he's talking about. We're returning 19 starters and we have 3 potential 1st round picks in Bray, Jhunt, and Darick.

But then I saw that he graduated from 13th Grade.

Carry on.

Fixed.

[gnm53108]

Originally Posted by 99gator

I really want to know where the hell all of this talent is of which some of you speak

You're on here more than I am...you know of who we speak.

[TommyKnox]

Let me sum it all up:

Fire Dooley....... Butthurt

Don't fire Dooley.... Butthurt that your Butthurt

Gaytors who spend all their time on a Tennessee board.

Feel free to add anything I missed.

[jhcrane14]

Dooley should definitely be in there, but maybe not #1. I agree with most of this list.

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

Originally Posted by AJeray4TN

Jessica Dorrell rode his hot seat into a ditch.

I see what you did there...

[UT's#1Fan]

Originally Posted by DL916

'Is it warm in here or what?' The 10 college football coaches on the hottest seats - Yahoo! Sports

Notice at the end he says we don't have enough talent to have a good 2012.

At first I was upset because I thought there is no way this guy knows what he's talking about. We're returning 19 starters and we have 3 potential 1st round picks in Bray, Jhunt, and Darick.

But then I saw that he graduated from Florida.

Carry on.

While I agree he is firmly on the hot seat, I do not feel he is #1.

We have the talent and schedule to win at least 8 games, 9 games if some things fall our way. If we don't I hope they fire him. Sure he could get away with 7 wins if we beat the likes of Bama and FL but slip against a Missouri or NC State. But 8 is the number for me UNLESS we win 8 but lose to FL, BAMA, UGA and USCe. He MUST beat one of these 4 and beat two of the four could afford him a loss to one of the "should wins" below.

NC State - Should WIN Could Lose
G. State - Must WIN
FL - Should WIN Could Lose
Akron - Must WIN
@ UGAy - Toss up... mark as a LOSS
@ Miss. St. Should WIN Could Lose (this is one of those that you have to win)
Alabama - LOSS
@ USCe - Toss up... mark as a LOSS
Troy - Must WIN
Missouri - Should WIN (another one that we can't sleep on)
@ Vandy - Should WIN Could Lose
UK - Should WIN

So that's:

• 4 Must Wins (G. State, Akron, Troy, UK) we lose one of these bye bye Dooley
• 1 Should Wins (Missouri)
• 4 Should Win, Could Lose (NC State, FLA, Miss St., Vandy)
• 3 Losses (UGAy, Bama, USCe)

8 or 9 wins easy... no?

[#10_Ainge_#10]

Originally Posted by DarthVisor

CWM just finished his first year. No way he should be on that last.

Really? Because I know a lot of unhappy Gator fans.

[northknoxvol]

Burn baby burn..........dooley inferno.........burn baby burn!

[DarthVisor]

Originally Posted by #10_Ainge_#10

Really? Because I know a lot of unhappy Gator fans.

Unhappy or not, he was in year one. They have no justification for throwing him on the hot seat after one year.