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05-04-2012, 09:02 AM
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#31 (permalink)
| | ButchSlapped! Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: North Georgia
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Originally Posted by 99gator Here is another way to think of it.
How many turnovers did tennessee force in the first half? How many sacks?
How well did they run the ball in the first half?
How often did they jump out to a lead and get up on someone by 10 in the first qtr or early 2nd qtr?
How well were they really playing before fatigue due to a lack of depth kicked in? | I had a few choice words for you, but why bother. You already know. Deep down inside. |
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05-04-2012, 09:05 AM
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| | Congressman Join Date: Jun 2009
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Originally Posted by voldawgforever I had a few choice words for you, but why bother. You already know. Deep down inside. | Choice words are all one is left with when you have an argument with no substance.
Trust me, everything i am saying is true about florida in the last couple of years. |
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05-04-2012, 09:10 AM
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| | VN Hose Toter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Memphis,Tn
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Originally Posted by Orange_Crush In before "Just proves Dooley can't make half-time adjustments." | Has he? Just a question.. |
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05-04-2012, 09:21 AM
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| | 13-14 in handshakes | Quote:
Originally Posted by voldawgforever I had a few choice words for you, but why bother. You already know. Deep down inside. | Why? What he's saying is true, regardless of what team he cheers for. |
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05-04-2012, 09:27 AM
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| | Bang Bang Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Happy Land
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Originally Posted by vollygirl Playing not to lose doesn't help you win. Shades of the past. |
I can tell you that this is not true at all. If I'm coaching against a team that has more talent han my team, I'm going to try and shorten the game and not beat myself.
I'd rather coach a smart game and have a chance to win in the end, instead of throwing it out there and getting killed. |
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05-04-2012, 09:29 AM
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| | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Knoxville, TN
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Originally Posted by 99gator If the problem was depth, how come Tennessee didnt have the lead at the half?
For the most part, most of the teams in the sec do not play a style that would equate to beating people by 4 touchdowns.
Most games in any sport are not over at halftime | Majority of teams we played last year had more talent. Means coaching was atleast good enough that our first team was able to keep up. Once fatigue sets in, depth will take its toll. When subs go in, whoever has the better subs has the advantage.
It's really not a hard concept. |
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05-04-2012, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Volz4lif3 Has he? Just a question.. |
Yes. He put in less talented, more inexperienced players in the seond half when the starters got tired. It was pretty much his only recourse. |
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05-04-2012, 09:32 AM
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| | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Knoxville, TN
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Originally Posted by justingroves Why? What he's saying is true, regardless of what team he cheers for. | What he is saying is not true about depth, which is what the thread is basically about. If we were good enough to play for a half, don't you think if we had equal talent across the board that we would be in it at the end.
If two teams have the same talent and one gets blown out, I will give you the coaching argument. |
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05-04-2012, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by UTFanForLife What he is saying is not true about depth, which is what the thread is basically about. If we were good enough to play for a half, don't you think if we had equal talent across the board that we would be in it at the end.
If two teams have the same talent and one gets blown out, I will give you the coaching argument. | Again, if depth was the main problem, why was tennessee unable to jump out on a team and play really well before running out of gas.
The idea that games were lost because just they lacked depth is ludicrous.
How many of these games did tennessee ever have the lead Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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05-04-2012, 09:46 AM
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| | 13-14 in handshakes | Quote:
Originally Posted by UTFanForLife What he is saying is not true about depth, which is what the thread is basically about. If we were good enough to play for a half, don't you think if we had equal talent across the board that we would be in it at the end.
If two teams have the same talent and one gets blown out, I will give you the coaching argument. | What did Tennessee do for a half against a team worth a damn? How many leads did Tennessee take into halftime?
Sure, they were within striking distance, but they never "outplayed" a team for a half before depth got them. If a game was 30 minutes long, Tennessee still would lose. |
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05-04-2012, 09:48 AM
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| | 13-14 in handshakes | Quote:
Originally Posted by 99gator Again, if depth was the main problem, why was tennessee unable to jump out on a team and play really well before running out of gas.
The idea that games were lost because just they lacked depth is ludicrous.
How many of these games did tennessee ever have the lead Posted via VolNation Mobile | The 2010 Oregon game is a legit argument for this. I can't think of any others |
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05-04-2012, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by justingroves The 2010 Oregon game is a legit argument for this. I can't think of any others | Agree. Posted via VolNation Mobile |
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05-04-2012, 09:55 AM
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| | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Knoxville, TN
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| Neither of you get it. Tennessee lacks TALENT, which means we lack depth. 99gator said that depth didn't lose us games. Read the stats, then tell me why we lost in second half.
We were in a ton of games, when your subs can't keep up with your opponents subs, you are going to fall behind. TN being up 2 scores in first half means nothing when our first team only compares to the opponents first team. Most teams first team was better than ours. So we were not going to blow out anyone. We hung around as long as our depth allowed us to. |
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05-04-2012, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by WesternKyVol Typical mean-spirited VN post. And you are actually among the very worst even though you try to give the appearance of being the smart guy in the crowd. I guess the reason the board is getting cleaner, so to speak, is because those that dissent --aside from a few holdouts-- have left for greener pastures. Me included. I come here occasionally and get called ignorant. So I post less and less, the way you want it.
If Dooley can win 10 games next year it will prove he is up to the challenge of coaching a top program. I love the Vols, and will be sick if and when we start losing. So don't come back with the "I bet you want them to lose" nonsense that you have used with me before, please. | 27 posts since Monday? I wouldn't say that's coming here occasionally and posting less and less. Just saying... |
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05-04-2012, 10:24 AM
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| | 13-14 in handshakes | Quote:
Originally Posted by UTFanForLife Neither of you get it. Tennessee lacks TALENT, which means we lack depth. 99gator said that depth didn't lose us games. Read the stats, then tell me why we lost in second half.
We were in a ton of games, when your subs can't keep up with your opponents subs, you are going to fall behind. TN being up 2 scores in first half means nothing when our first team only compares to the opponents first team. Most teams first team was better than ours. So we were not going to blow out anyone. We hung around as long as our depth allowed us to. | When did Tennessee take a 2 score lead into halftime against a team worth a damn, other than Cincy?
Why was the 3rd quarter so God awful for Tennessee? |
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