Barnhart: Vols on right track says Dooley

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by brandonco05

What are you talking about?

[brandonco05]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

Yeah, I covered that

[Incipient]

Originally Posted by brandonco05

What are you talking about?

Edit: nevermind, I get it. Fact is they let that game go after a huge lead.

They did. But also, Cam Newton.

As for the Carolina game, you could see it coming a mile away. Last of three straight big games, including a big win over Florida (huge game at the time), South Carolina coming off a bye with Gameday in town and a matchup advantage (Lattimore vs a rebuilding Bama run D)

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by Incipient

Well that's not quite fair. They didn't play UGA. But, supposing you trade out UGA with Arky, we'd only have to go 2-1 against those three to reach 9-3. Unless I'm forgetting someone

Include Penn State and it's 3-1.

[brandonco05]

Originally Posted by Incipient

They did. But also, Cam Newton.

As for the Carolina game, you could see it coming a mile away. Last of three straight big games, including a big win over Florida (huge game at the time), South Carolina coming off a bye with Gameday in town and a matchup advantage (Lattimore vs a rebuilding Bama run D)

I get all that, but the fact is tvols is claiming we should go 10-2 because only one team is vastly superior, yet bama lost to 2 teams with less talent and one that was comparable. Alabama was more talented at every position except qb against auburn, dl is debatable.

[Kurtastrophe]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

They are a reason for why UT has been bad. They aren't a great reason for why UT has been historically bad and they don't justify the regression of the running game, offensive line play, etc.

Well, when you combine it with being in a historically difficult conference, it closes that gap.

But I agree with most of what you say.

[Incipient]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

Include Penn State and it's 3-1.

Yeah, but including Penn State is like including Mississippi State. Except Mississippi State was half-decent.

[Incipient]

Originally Posted by brandonco05

I get all that, but the fact is tvols is claiming we should go 10-2 because only one team is vastly superior, yet bama lost to 2 teams with less talent and one that was comparable. Alabama was more talented at every position except qb against auburn, dl is debatable.

Yeah, but when you win national championships, you gain goodwill. When you've never had an upset victory, you'd best minimize your upset losses.

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by Incipient

Yeah, but when you win national championships, you gain goodwill. When you've never had an upset victory, you'd best minimize your upset losses.

Exactly. I'm not saying Dooley should be fired at 9-3. I am saying it's not really that big an achievement.

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by Incipient

Yeah, but including Penn State is like including Mississippi State. Except Mississippi State was half-decent.

Looking at that schedule, what kind of record do you think the Tennessee team would have? I see 3 games which are almost sure losses, and 3 others which seem to be questionable at best. With opponents having by weeks like Alabama's opponents had that year, I don't see much better than 7-5.

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by Kurtastrophe

Well, when you combine it with being in a historically difficult conference, it closes that gap.

But I agree with most of what you say.

Fair enough, but seeing regression from year one to year two was unbelievably concerning.

[justingroves]

Originally Posted by vollygirl

Translation: I'm a UT grad and I rehash and bash as much as possible.

Am I right?

No, the definition of "true fan" changes a lot. I'm just making sure I know the criteria for now

[Incipient]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

Looking at that schedule, what kind of record do you think the Tennessee team would have? I see 3 games which are almost sure losses, and 3 others which seem to be questionable at best.

The 2010 Alabama schedule? Auburn, Arkansas, and LSU are sure losses. Carolina is a close call. We played them pretty well with our crappy 2010 team, but they had skills and a bye. Mississippi State should be a win but wouldn't be easy. Florida and Penn State are easy wins for any competent team.

I'd say expected record of 8-4 with 9-3 more likely than 7-5. Assuming we are competent.

[Kurtastrophe]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

Fair enough, but seeing regression from year one to year two was unbelievably concerning.

Yeah. I really like our talent level, but I'm keeping my expectations in check until we beat somebody.

[justingroves]

Originally Posted by vollygirl

I have too. And something is definitely different.

A bad coach that has never won anything coaching Tennessee is what's different.

It's hilarious to watch people twist and turn and try to reason out why Tennessee hasn't been a good team for awhile.

Fulmer got lazy, Lane left too soon and Dooley's not very good. He was a rush hire by an incompetent AD. He could very well ride Bray's arm to a good season. I'll be cheering for it.