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Old 05-01-2012, 12:15 PM   #166 (permalink)
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After Bray gets carted off the field we won't have to double anybody.
LOL - SIAP - Our receivers are going to be so open my mama could hit them.
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Old 05-01-2012, 12:23 PM   #167 (permalink)
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Still doesn't make much sense because on that 1 pass attempt they didn't get sacked in the said scenario. We had more passing attempts than both LSU and Bama but allowed fewer sacks. If what you said was true, then there should have been more sacks allowed because we were in obvious passing downs.
Haven't seen the numbers but given the above....

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Look, I'm not saying that our OL didn't excel at pass blocking because they did. They did a nice job protecting Bray, for the most part.

But the numbers get skewed when half of the season your QB is Matt Simms, Worley or a broken-fingered Bray. We tried, miserably, to run the ball more. Teams didn't have to blitz as much to put pressure on the QB. They could sit in zone and make our poor QB's make plays, which they couldn't.
It makes this mean something different.

The sack rate is the sack rate (i.e. sacks per passing attempt) and if we had more attempts than both Bama and LSUseless then we did better. Webb what you are saying would benefit Bama and LSUseless by them having fewer total sacks allowed due to fewer pass attempts than UT. I would like to see all three teams numbers on passing attempts and sack rate. If we have the better rate on more attempts, then our pass blocking was better than either Bama or LSUseless.

Edit: OK, did some research. These stats are from Yahoo Sports and the attempts numbers matches some other sites, but the UT sack number didn't. Yahoo has Sacks/Attempts as follows:

UT 18/400 for a rate of .045 sacks per attempt
Bama 17/357 for a rate of .048 sacks per attempt
LSUseless 18/279 for a rate of .065 sacks per attempt

I would say our pass blocking was the best of the 3.

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Haven't seen the numbers but given the above....



It makes this mean something different.

The sack rate is the sack rate (i.e. sacks per passing attempt) and if we had more attempts than both Bama and LSUseless then we did better. Webb what you are saying would benefit Bama and LSUseless by them having fewer total sacks allowed due to fewer pass attempts than UT. I would like to see all three teams numbers on passing attempts and sack rate. If we have the better rate on more attempts, then our pass blocking was better than either Bama or LSUseless.

Edit: OK, did some research. These stats are from Yahoo Sports and the attempts numbers matches some other sites, but the UT sack number didn't. Yahoo has Sacks/Attempts as follows:

UT 18/400 for a rate of .045 sacks per attempt
Bama 17/357 for a rate of .048 sacks per attempt
LSUseless 18/279 for a rate of .065 sacks per attempt

I would say our pass blocking was the best of the 3.
You skipped the most important part of my post. Look at what you didn't bold.
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:10 PM   #169 (permalink)
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You skipped the most important part of my post. Look at what you didn't bold.
Good point, however, not all sacks come from blitzes. Do you think that the fact they could lay back and cover the receivers may actually contribute to the sack total vs. take away from it? I would think that if they were laying back in coverage, that it would make our QB's hold the ball longer and therefore create more opportunity for the O-line to break down.
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Old 05-01-2012, 10:51 PM   #170 (permalink)
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I agree that there are no more excuses. No reason why 9 wins (not including a bowl) isn't attainable this year, anything less would be a disappointment and grounds for a new coach, IMO.
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I agree with him, in a sense. I mean, eight wins this season should be reached.
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If you put Da'Rick in the slot with Patterson on the outside who can single cover him? The "best" nickel in the country got drug around like a rag doll when he tried to cover him last year.There's not a team out there that can play man coverage against Rogers, Hunter, and Patterson (even if Patterson doesn't fully understand the playbook). We will see a lot of soft zone, and the more mature Bray will find all the soft spots in it. If fully healthy all year, we can be average in every other facet of the game and win 9 games if the passing game is as dominant as it should be. No more excuses.
This is the X-factor in deciding the success for UT's passing game in 2012. Bray has to stop throwing the deep ball when it's not there...he did it in the O&W game to DR in double coverage when a wide open 12+ yd completion was open on the drag.

The potential is there...no one can deny that (not even fade)... but an extension of the run game (swing/dump/bench routes) and pocket routes will have to be established. This is the biggest skepticism I have...more so than CP...healthy Hunter...or depth.
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