Being dominant at one thing covers up the weaknesses everywhere else

[tvols75]

Originally Posted by bamawriter

Numbers are misleading. Simms got hit a lot.

Plus, Tennessee didn't go down field against the better pass rushing teams. Had they done so, the sack numbers would have gone up.

Simms got hit a lot because he was slow as crap releasing the ball. The fact that he didn't get sacked nearly as much as he did the year before was a testament to the improvement.

[tvols75]

Originally Posted by King Webbsticles

Also, running ~25 plays in the second half of some games skewed the numbers

Not sure how that skewed the numbers because we are comparing the passing attempts for the entire season to the rest of the teams in the SEC. We were 3rd behind LSU and Bama in total sacks given up. We were 1st in sacks per pass attempt.

[1974Vol]

Originally Posted by thebjd

Teams really don't double team. The safeties play two deep zone and the three corners can zone or play man in the nickel. That is 5 on three with a pass rush and a qb having to make a decision. The matchups get created with tempo or the safeties having to honor the threat of a run. We need to be able to run successfully against nickel and dime defenses because we will have the opportunity.

The scenario changes with every defense run against them. Was specifically responding to notion of putting your CB's on an island with Hunter and/or D Rogers. You can call it man underneath with zone safety help over the top or whatever you want to run. Once the balls snapped the safety either helps in which case it now becomes double coverage or he doesn't which means the CB in is man. I agree we will see alot of nickle and dime because of the match up problems our slot and TE will present for LB's. IMO where we HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RUN is 3rd and short and in the red (orange?) zone. Won't do alot of good to pass for 350 and can't make 3rd and goal at the one.

[loggervol]

we may see alot of two back sets,and i'm hoping to see the pistol OF also.

[1974Vol]

Originally Posted by bamawriter

If you are consistently playing with four or more receivers in order to force single coverage, you are exposing your QB. The numbers game won't work in your favor if your QB is getting hit on every play.

In their basic sets Vols will have 3 WR and a TE in game alot. Plus RB & FB or another TE. So we'll have 5 eligible receivers on every play. Unless the D blitzs that still leaves us 5 to black 4 (in standard 4-3 D set) So unless the other teams 4 down DL are just whipping our OL (which did not happen often last year - proved by stats in other posts) then Bray will have the time he needs. If Bray has developed between the ears like we hope he has, I hope he gets blitzed alot - will be alot of home run balls then.

[King Webbsticles]

Originally Posted by tvols75

Not sure how that skewed the numbers because we are comparing the passing attempts for the entire season to the rest of the teams in the SEC. We were 3rd behind LSU and Bama in total sacks given up. We were 1st in sacks per pass attempt.

When you run, run, pass, punt as much as we did it will make your OL stats look better. That adds a passing attempt without a sack.

[tvols75]

Originally Posted by King Webbsticles

When you run, run, pass, punt as much as we did it will make your OL stats look better. That adds a passing attempt without a sack.

Still doesn't make much sense because on that 1 pass attempt they didn't get sacked in the said scenario. We had more passing attempts than both LSU and Bama but allowed fewer sacks. If what you said was true, then there should have been more sacks allowed because we were in obvious passing downs.

[tvols75]

Originally Posted by bamawriter

If you are consistently playing with four or more receivers in order to force single coverage, you are exposing your QB. The numbers game won't work in your favor if your QB is getting hit on every play.

At the same time, if your line is not getting to the QB by themselves you are leaving your DBs on an island with the same set. I like the 3 WRs we have on that island.

[King Webbsticles]

Originally Posted by tvols75

Still doesn't make much sense because on that 1 pass attempt they didn't get sacked in the said scenario. We had more passing attempts than both LSU and Bama but allowed fewer sacks. If what you said was true, then there should have been more sacks allowed because we were in obvious passing downs.

Look, I'm not saying that our OL didn't excel at pass blocking because they did. They did a nice job protecting Bray, for the most part.

But the numbers get skewed when half of the season your QB is Matt Simms, Worley or a broken-fingered Bray. We tried, miserably, to run the ball more. Teams didn't have to blitz as much to put pressure on the QB. They could sit in zone and make our poor QB's make plays, which they couldn't.

[tvols75]

Originally Posted by King Webbsticles

Look, I'm not saying that our OL didn't excel at pass blocking because they did. They did a nice job protecting Bray, for the most part.

But the numbers get skewed when half of the season your QB is Matt Simms, Worley or a broken-fingered Bray. We tried, miserably, to run the ball more. Teams didn't have to blitz as much to put pressure on the QB. They could sit in zone and make our poor QB's make plays, which they couldn't.

Fair point. But even sitting back in a zone the year before Simms got sacked a ton because he couldn't get rid of the ball. Can you search and see how many times he got sacked when he started? I'm on phone or I would.

[King Webbsticles]

Originally Posted by tvols75

Fair point. But even sitting back in a zone the year before Simms got sacked a ton because he couldn't get rid of the ball. Can you search and see how many times he got sacked when he started? I'm on phone or I would.

2011: 4 sacks
2010: 25 sacks

[JohnnyBall]

Originally Posted by BigOrangeFanatic

I agree that there are no more excuses. No reason why 9 wins (not including a bowl) isn't attainable this year, anything less would be a disappointment and grounds for a new coach, IMO.

Yeah let's win 8,fire the coach and go into another 3 year rebuilding job..you people kill me

[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBall

Yeah let's win 8,fire the coach and go into another 3 year rebuilding job..you people kill me

What if the alternative is spending 3 more years wandering around in the dark, realize you're getting nowhere, and then still have to do go through that same 3 year rebuilding job? Are you saying it's better to put off the rebuilding? That doesn't make sense.

[VolsMcGee]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

What if the alternative is spending 3 more years wandering around in the dark, realize you're getting nowhere, and then still have to do go through that same 3 year rebuilding job? Are you saying it's better to put off the rebuilding? That doesn't make sense.

It does if you'd be paying 4 coaches without giving one of them much of a chance. Unfortunately, we don't have many options at this juncture. Until our Athletic Department is done picking up the pieces, Dooley needs our support.

[Titan&Volfan4life]

IF <-----We have alot of those to iron out and see how it comes together by game 1.

IF Bray learns to read the D better, Learns to make his checkoffs better, makes his shorter passing game better, ect.

IF Hunter comes back at 100% both physically and mentally.

IF C. Patterson comes in and learns alot of our O fast and performs as the hype implies he will.

IF we have a much better running game.

IF our D players learn the 3-4 and can execute it well.

IF everyone stays healthy all season.

I think CDD has a new O plan in mind in case our running game is only slightly better and a better plan to keep the O of the other teams off the firld longer.

Spring practice showed us a little of that but we will NOT totally focus so much on just our WR's like the plan was last season.

We can move the ball, control the clock and keep the chains moving and score with a consistent shorter passing game and our 2 good TE's will play alot bigger part of that than what we saw last season.

When Bray sees the D coming in closer to try and stop our shorter passing game then he will have more good opportunities to go over the top for the big plays and TD's that we all expect to see.

5 to 7 yard passes consistently is just as good as running the ball for the same yardage.

NEVER forget that we do have great WR's but we also have 2 really good TE's and I honestly don't believe there's many teams that can stop our total passing attack when we have 2 TE's and 3 WR's on the field alot of the time.

Also remember that a big part of spring practice was focused on our WR's becoming much better blockers and that will also help our running game alot because we do have the RB speed to get around the corners and with the TE's and WR's blocking much better and consistently we'll get some good runs that will force the D to try something different.

The longer our O is on the field and moving the chains the longer CSS has for our D players to rest and to make important adjustments and we didn't have that time last season because our O came off the field too fast.

I feel confident that this season we're going to have too many weapons on our O for teams to be able to shutdown as fast as they did last year and that means we control the clock, move the chains and put alot more points on the board and force other teams to play catchup which will play right into the hands of our D and we'll see alot more INT's this season too.

Barring alot of injuries I believe most Tennessee fans will see that the CDD rebuilding plan is working and with alot more Wins will also come alot better recruiting for the future.

We WIN against floriDUHHH this season and alaBubba will know they had a fight on their hands too and we just might get a little luck on our side for a change and shock the crimson turd too.

VFL...GBO!!!