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Old 04-18-2012, 02:42 PM   #421
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Has the roster improved in your opinion? And if so, isn't that a crucial first step in the rebuilding process?
How the OL plays this season answers that question. Was the last of 2010 what they can do or was 2011 what they can do?

AJ, Randolph and Maggitt look good.

The best WR recruit from his last class left, not blaming Dooley for that but he was a big part of the class, and Dallas hasn't stood out at all.

On paper, there is more quality depth.

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Regardless, it's time for Dooley to put up or GTFO. I know it. Some think there's no way he can, because he hasn't proven that he can. They remind us of this every day. Others just know he will, even though he hasn't proven that he can... and they, too, remind us of this every day.

I prefer to remain cautiously (skeptically?) optimistic about this season.
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:48 PM   #423
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Regardless, it's time for Dooley to put up or GTFO. He knows it, Hart knows it, we know it. Some think there's no way he can, because he hasn't proven that he can. They remind us of this every day. Others just know he will, even though he hasn't proven that he can... and they, too, remind us of this every day.

I prefer to remain cautiously (skeptically?) optimistic about this season.
I agree to a point! Yes it is put up or shut time and CDD knows that BUT it is the put up vs the shut up that is the debate. Only Hart knows what he wants to see and if he sees that then Dooley is fine if not then we will start over again. For me personally I wont be satisfied with just 8 wins but that will be enough to know we are stepping in the right direction still. Not to mention the personality and growth that the team shows throughout the year.
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:57 PM   #424
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Do you think Dooley sticks around with a .500 season? Do you think he gets to stay if he goes 7-5, but loses to FL, GA, AL, SC, and either Mizzou or Miss St?

I think he needs to beat at least one of those four teams while winning at least eight games. I think that's what Hart expects... maybe I'm wrong.

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Expound. Do you think Dooley sticks around with a .500 season? Do you think he gets to stay if he goes 7-5, but loses to FL, GA, AL, SC, and either Mizzou or Miss St?
Nope, but I don't know what Hart or Dooley knows. And you certainly don't. I think he has to win 7 and be in all 12 at the end. I think he has to go to a bowl and win. That has been my opine all along. .500 and he is gone, don't think that is questionable. However, I don't call 7 reg and 1 bowl win "put up or shut up". I call it a marginal season that will suck but be good enough to keep him here 1 year.
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I agree to a point! Yes it is put up or shut time and CDD knows that BUT it is the put up vs the shut up that is the debate. Only Hart knows what he wants to see and if he sees that then Dooley is fine if not then we will start over again. For me personally I wont be satisfied with just 8 wins but that will be enough to know we are stepping in the right direction still. Not to mention the personality and growth that the team shows throughout the year.
Understood... I would just expect that the standard has to be nine. If we're 8-4 but get blown out by AL, and lose to FL, GA, and SC it just doesn't seem like much of an accomplishment.

But I do agree that seeing how the team handles the games we're down in will be big.
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Expound.

Do you think Dooley sticks around with a .500 season? Do you think he gets to stay if he goes 7-5, but loses to FL, GA, AL, SC, and either Mizzou or Miss St?

I think he needs to beat at least one of those four teams while winning at least eight games. I think that's what Hart expects... maybe I'm wrong.
What if he goes 7-5 or 8-4 and beats a Bama or SC or GA but loses to a Mizzou?
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Nope, but I don't know what Hart or Dooley knows. And you certainly don't. I think he has to win 7 and be in all 12 at the end. I think he has to go to a bowl and win. That has been my opine all along. .500 and he is gone, don't think that is questionable. However, I don't call 7 reg and 1 bowl win "put up or shut up". I call it a marginal season that will suck but be good enough to keep him here 1 year.
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Tennessee's football history isn't mediocre to decent. That's the worst insult one can make towards Tennessee football.
If second best in the SEC and top 10 nationally is mediocre to decent, a lot of teams should quit.
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What if he goes 7-5 or 8-4 and beats a Bama or SC or GA but loses to a Mizzou?
No way he should return with a 7 win regular season.
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No way he should return with a 7 win regular season.
7 Reg season and bowl and in it till the end in all 5 losses and he is here in 2013.
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If second best in the SEC and top 10 nationally is mediocre to decent, a lot of teams should quit.
We had a good to awesome (more awesome) streak in the 90's but couldn't win the big one except for 98. Other than that, the last 35 years for me has been decent. Too many big wins have been washed away by Rutgers, Wyoming, etc. Don't try to put us at the level of Bama or Florida for the last 20 years, cause we aren't there nor have we been. I am hoping that we will be. I want to see another streak SIMILAR to the 90's but beating Bama and Florida more than they beat us.
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7 Reg season and bowl and in it till the end in all 5 losses and he is here in 2013.
In that case, we would be much better of focusing on basketball.
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We had a good to awesome (more awesome) streak in the 90's but couldn't win the big one except for 98. Other than that, the last 35 years for me has been decent. Too many big wins have been washed away by Rutgers, Wyoming, etc. DoPln't try to put us at the level of Bama or Florida for the last 20 years, cause we aren't there nor have we been. I am hoping that we will be. I want to see another streak SIMILAR to the 90's but beating Bama and Florida more than they beat us.
The thing that separates these teams from Tennessee is coaching.
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No way he should return with a 7 win regular season.
So it doesn't matter who we beat or lose to as long as we win a certain number? That is what yo uare saying yet if we win 8 or 9 and lose to those same teams will you be complaining that he can't beat a "team we aren't suppose to beat"?
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