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Old 04-05-2012, 02:43 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I think we will be much improved this year but why couldnt all the coaches that left see it.


Did you ever think that this was the plan that CDD had all along and he couldn't get the 3-4 coaches/motivators/recruiters that he wanted in only his first 2 weeks here so he had to wait until the right coaches could get out of their contracts and could join him at Tennessee.

I think most of the coaches that left were told well ahead of time that they needed to start looking around for their next jobs because CDD was going with a 3-4 D and was going to use some 4-3 as well.

CDD and CSS have known and liked each other for a long time so I think this move was planned several months ago and CSS started talking to D coaches he wanted back then too.

These kinds of really good coaching moves don't usually happen by accident my friend and many coaches talk alot all the time especially when they're friends and respect each other.

CDD always said he had a solid plan and AD Hart seemed to like what CDD had planned after many hours together going over everything in detail.

If this was a coaching accident then I hope we have alot more of these good accidents happen to our Vols, LOL.

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Did you ever think that this was the plan that CDD had all along and he couldn't get the 3-4 coaches/motivators/recruiters that he wanted in only his first 2 weeks here so he had to wait until the right coaches could get out of their contracts and could join him at Tennessee.

I think most of the coaches that left were told well ahead of time that they needed to start looking around for their next jobs because CDD was going with a 3-4 D and was going to use some 4-3 as well.

CDD and CSS have known and liked each other for a long time so I think this move was planned several months ago and CSS started talking to D coaches he wanted back then too.

These kinds of really good coaching moves don't usually happen by accident my friend and many coaches talk alot all the time especially when they're friends and respect each other.

CDD always said he had a solid plan and AD Hart seemed to like what CDD had planned after many hours together going over everything in detail.

If this was a coaching accident then I hope we have alot more of these good accidents happen to our Vols, LOL.

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So Dooley planned to fire his entire staff during peak recruiting season between his second and third season?

Unlikely.
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Really... I can't actually believe that some people are concerned we may be rotating quarterbacks this year.
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So Dooley planned to fire his entire staff during peak recruiting season between his second and third season?

Unlikely.
You need to read the first paragraph again. This plan was hatched 2 weeks after Dooley was hired. Something Rommel would do.
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Really... I can't actually believe that some people are concerned we may be rotating quarterbacks this year.
Whatever it takes to win...period.
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You need to read the first paragraph again. This plan was hatched 2 weeks after Dooley was hired. Something Rommel would do.
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The 2012 RBs under Graham's stress for aggressive running plus ball security are responding according to both CJG and CSS. I think we will see the return or semblance of the down your throat running attack from days of old.


Barring injuries and further attrition, I think pieces in place for us to either win the SEC-east or finish 2nd at the worse. I look for vengeance games vs. Vandy and KY meaning very high scores with the SOS (Sons of Sunkist -Bray, DR, JH) insisting on staying in the game after it becomes a runaway.

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that's a negatory good buddy on rotating QB's. Bray is the man
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I like the enthusiasm, but I think you're reading way too much into post spring practice comments from the coaches.
I agree. The OP's post was basically worthless.
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Your comments make perfect sense to me but suggest you read what the coaches are saying about the QBs and what it may imply.
It apparently implies that you foolishly believe every word that comes out of the coaches' mouths.
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Dooley has already said they are discussing a package for Peterman to take around 10 snaps a game, in an option package.
That would be beyond stupid (so I'm not going to totally rule it out with our coaching staff). The option is NOT something that you can run a few times per game and execute it well. You have to run an option offense full-time in order to be able to get down the timing and decision making necessary to run it effectively. Running it 5 to 10 times per game will result in a MASSIVE number of fumbles.
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This is speculation, though I believe with a foundation of reason to believe to be a prophetic truth.

The 2012 team returns to the tradition of a big and now it seems mean OL. It appears the OL has put strength work in and as per CSP and CDD, playing with a bit of aggression which he preferred to as violence last season. The new OL coach appears to be insisting the OL become road graders running on jet fuel instead of diesel. With an attitude of get the h3ll out of the way.

The 2012 RBs under Graham's stress for aggressive running plus ball security are responding according to both CJG and CSS. I think we will see the return or semblance of the down your throat running attack from days of old.

The defense isn't fully back having a slight bit of thinness here and there but nothing like the past 3-4 years. However, under CSS they seem to be better conditioned, better talent, and being trained to have a just downright nasty attitude. I don't know a freaking thing but I think what I read between the lines is CSS is here to show his work in Alabama wasn't due to Sabanism but rather due to Sunseri-ism. Consequently, I look to see a hard playing Tennessee defense win, lose, or draw.

The only concern I really have is CDD maybe doing some Fulmeric foolishness by rotating quarterbacks. Yeah, I know Wes Miles did this with some success but often this isn't a smart thing to do. Bray appears to be the man though it apparently isn't his way to act take charge and be vocal about it. When all there, he gets the job done and with the WR arsenal he has now, that should be more true now than it ever was. Remember when he had Gerald Jones and Denarius Moore? Two experienced WRs and of course Hunter and Da'Rick thrown in from time to time but it was the seniors mostly. Bray threw his head off. Now with the same type of thing featuring JH and DR as very talented and experience WRs, he will do the same. Once again we will have a at least 2 if not more newcomer WRs that can spot the vets when needed. If CDD is smart, he won't tamper with this by experimenting with Worley and Peterman unless it's mop up duty. Of course if Bray falters it's nice to know we have two QBs who would perform better than the unfortunate Matt Simms. So CDD don't mess with a sure thing by rotating your QBs if Bray is making plays and he will. Plus he has a close personal and on field relationship with JH and DR, just don't mess with it when there is no cause to.

Barring injuries and further attrition, I think pieces in place for us to either win the SEC-east or finish 2nd at the worse. I look for vengeance games vs. Vandy and KY meaning very high scores with the SOS (Sons of Sunkist -Bray, DR, JH) insisting on staying in the game after it becomes a runaway.

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they are going to rotate qb's
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Really don't see the rotation of QBs. However I do think that we are on the road back. Not sure we have arrived but in time we will be back to the top. I have faith in CDD and his gang of assistant! GBO
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Did you ever think that this was the plan that CDD had all along and he couldn't get the 3-4 coaches/motivators/recruiters that he wanted in only his first 2 weeks here so he had to wait until the right coaches could get out of their contracts and could join him at Tennessee.

I think most of the coaches that left were told well ahead of time that they needed to start looking around for their next jobs because CDD was going with a 3-4 D and was going to use some 4-3 as well.

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These kinds of really good coaching moves don't usually happen by accident my friend and many coaches talk alot all the time especially when they're friends and respect each other.

CDD always said he had a solid plan and AD Hart seemed to like what CDD had planned after many hours together going over everything in detail.

If this was a coaching accident then I hope we have alot more of these good accidents happen to our Vols, LOL.

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Says the Sabesque Da'Rick love letter writer. Losing 7 coaches in the offseason is not a 'master plan' move upgrade or not.


On a side note, I would love to know what Woodsman is taking. His posts are consistently.......interesting. Must be some good stuff.
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That would be beyond stupid (so I'm not going to totally rule it out with our coaching staff). The option is NOT something that you can run a few times per game and execute it well. You have to run an option offense full-time in order to be able to get down the timing and decision making necessary to run it effectively. Running it 5 to 10 times per game will result in a MASSIVE number of fumbles.
A run/pass option. Not a option read-style option.
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