UT first in SEC to use 4-3?

[DjCrenshaw]

The video said first in the SEC, not the first ever IIRC.

[tumscalcium]

Originally Posted by DjCrenshaw

The video says that it was revolutionary that UT switched to the 4-3 as we were the first in the SEC to do so.

Yeah, I heard that in the video as well, I just have a real hard time believing that nobody, absolutely nobody in the SEC ever used 4 down lineman. Ever.

Edit: Before 1990.

[DjCrenshaw]

Originally Posted by tums

Yeah, I heard that in the video as well, I just have a real hard time believing that nobody, absolutely nobody in the SEC ever used 4 down lineman. Ever.

Edit: Before 1990.

I think it said as their base defense, as in, UT ran that formation all the time as opposed to passing situations. 5-3 hornet.

[DjCrenshaw]

Here is UCLA using the 4 down against UT in 89



YouTube Link

[DjCrenshaw]

Originally Posted by 85Destiny

From my recollection we switched to a 4-3 in the middle of the 1988 season after Donahue was let go.

I'm thinking you are right because UT is using the 40 in the 89 game against ucla as well.

[patriot-vol]

Originally Posted by 85Destiny

From my recollection we switched to a 4-3 in the middle of the 1988 season after Donahue was let go.

That's what I remember as well. Wasn't Keith DeLong a linebacker that year?

[rockytop114]

Originally Posted by Nashvol2

I don't know if people consider the 3-4 innovative. Its been around a while also. It just seems like its the sexy d to run right now.

You have to run a D that can stop sec offense and 34 is what is doing it now. Also it seems that the kids and athletes that you need to stop a sec team fit into a 34 defense better . I also think we are better setup for a 34 . Bigger faster and you need speed in the sec.

[rockytop114]

Originally Posted by DjCrenshaw

I'm thinking you are right because UT is using the 40 in the 89 game against ucla as well.

What's the 40? I know 43 and 34 and 4-2-5 and a 44 also what is 50? Also what defense did the vols run before the 43?

[DjCrenshaw]

Originally Posted by rockytop114

What's the 40? I know 43 and 34 and 4-2-5 and a 44 also what is 50? Also what defense did the vols run before the 43?

40 is 4 down linemen. 50 is 5 down linemen. I am think UT ran a 50 or something to the effect of.

[NMVol]

Nice videos. Thanks.

[gunner]

34 and a 50 defenses are very similar, in most 34 defenses the outside backers align near the line of scrimmage in a two point stance, in short yardage they go to a three point hence the 50 look. Outside backers are part linebacker, and part end, they have to be able to play both.

Not much difference (in that they do the same things just a different alignment) from the 34 or 43, both have 7 man fronts, 34 usually have bigger defenders, 43 are usually for smaller faster defenders. Also, gap responsibility differ.

Either way a team that is multiple such as Bama is, puts pressure on the offense to recognize the scheme at the line and adapt accordingly which gives the defense the advantage. In my opinion, a 43 is better suited to stop a passing attack while a 34 is better for suited to stop a run team.

The Vols won't be a 34 or 43 defense next season, as Dooley as said they will be multiple much like Bama is, Vols are looking to create match up problems for the opposing offense and dictate the flow of the game.

We will see both fronts from time to time, and don't be surprised if they line up in a 43 and switch to a 34 right before the ball is snapped.

Just my two cents

[gunner]

Originally Posted by GAVol

I can't believe this is true. The 4-3 has been around forever. I know a lot of teams were still running 50 defenses in the 80s, but it's not like the 43 was seen as something particularly innovative in the way the 3-4 is viewed now.

34 defense is not viewed by coaches as innovative, but it is view that way by some fans.

[Gator H8R]

Originally Posted by Biopsyman

Radio has not been the same since Ward left

This. I miss that man. No homo.

[Gator H8R]

I dont remember many things from 90 as I was only 5, but I will never forget that Dale Carter return against UF. The entire UF game that year, for tha matter.

[YorkVol]

Thanks for the memories...