Fulmer debate extravaganza (merged)

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Fulmer was closer to being fired last year than he ever has been. 2-3 blowout losses and he's right back in the hot seat. He won't last 6 years unless he wins the SEC asap.

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Originally Posted by justingroves

So how would you classify UGA beating Vandy because of a missed field goal this past season?

a low point for UGA, only surpassed on the humiliation scale by their getting trounced by a mediocre UTK.

[KB5252]

Originally Posted by VolunteerHillbilly

having to depend on missed field goals to beat the likes of Vandy and Kentucky constitutes low points in my book.

While they are not elite programs last years Kentucky and Vandy teams are not the same teams from 5 years ago. Their improvement is another reason why the sec is the best conference in the land. That being said if we want to get back to elite status we need to beat the teams we should handily, by two touchdowns on the average.

[KB5252]

Originally Posted by VolunteerHillbilly

a low point for UGA, only surpassed on the humiliation scale by their getting trounced by a mediocre UTK.

We were a little better than mediocre in the grand scheme of things. If we are the dominant conference and we finish where we did you could not call it mediocre. We get outcoached quite a bit, and that is the biggest problem I have seen. We are not the elite program we once where but mediocre is short changing us and the sec.

[salutethehill]

Originally Posted by VolunteerHillbilly

having to depend on missed field goals to beat the likes of Vandy and Kentucky constitutes low points in my book.

Yeah, Kentucky's awful. They've only beaten GA, Clemson, Louisville, LSU (eventual National Champs) and Florida State the past 2 seasons. Beating them by a field goal is embarassing

[VolsFanRJ]

He definitely needs to win one I agree. Going 3 times since 98 and losing just isn't good enough for Tennessee Football.

[VolsFanRJ]

Originally Posted by salutethehill

Yeah, Kentucky's awful. They've only beaten GA, Clemson, Louisville, LSU (eventual National Champs) and Florida State the past 2 seasons. Beating them by a field goal is embarassing

Good point. Kentucky will probably be down a little again this year, but the past couple of years they have really improved. They gave us and several other schools all they wanted.

[justingroves]

Originally Posted by tennisguy

Good point. Kentucky will probably be down a little again this year, but the past couple of years they have really improved. They gave us and several other schools all they wanted.

UK will be awful next year. They'll finish around 5-7

[Oldblood]

I think if he even has a decent year (9 wins) this year with no SEC champ then he is not on the hotseat. As long as we don't have blowout losses to our rivals. He'll have the old, "we're installing a new offense" to fall back on. BUT, going into next year with the "10 years since SEC title AND 10 years since BCS bowl hanging over his head, he has to win SOMETHING or will be on the hotseat again. SEC title in the next two years signs his ticket to be hear at least 4-6 more years.

[billbattle]

The Vols under Phil underachieve. Plain and simple. If I had the opportunity to choose a coach for one game, Phil would be waaay down the list. He is just a mediocre game coach who happens to be a great recruiter (at least before this year). Reading this thread, I had forgot Bama had won a title since the Vols won it. How embarrassing is that?

[vol4eva]

Originally Posted by utmba93

I posted this a few times within threads but it keeps coming up.

I can't imagine how many times I've read that it's been 10 years since Fulmer won an SEC Championship. That's referring to the 1998 season. But, since the Vols have only played 9 seasons, it would be fair if you critics would stick to the facts.

There's no need to give up on the 2008 Vols before the season ever starts. And, if for some reason, we don't win the SEC this season, are you going to say it's been 11 years next year... and just keep being wrong until we win it again?

Please kindly adhere to the facts. Just to help with the math, here's how to count them.

1) 2007 (that's the last season played)
2) 2006
3) 2005
4) 2004
5) 2003
6) 2002
7) 2001
8) 2000
9) 1999 (this was the 1st season after the Vols won the national championship)

Fire away... 3 embarassing loses in 2007; can't forget 2005; and so on.

The 2008 team is about to reset the clock, so remember to tell your grandkids, there were only 9 years between championships and not 10... and it was not 41 years.. that was basketball.

Get ready to update this photo in 2008! Go Vols!

I don't care how you spin it, but it still doesn't justify the fact that we have 0 Sec Championships this decade.

[rexvol]

Phil is the Teflon Don.

[vol4eva]

I said before last season I would give him 2 years to win a Sec Championship. He has one more year left.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by justingroves

So how would you classify UGA beating Vandy because of a missed field goal this past season?

absolute proof that UGA was not very good.

[KB5252]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

absolute proof that UGA was not very good.

I would argue that there was no absolute studd team this past year. Georgia was very good but I would not say they where a powerhouse.