UT Athletic Department profitable (merged)

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amazing that you went through that article only to pick out something MH did. Personally I'm more impressed with things like

Nine members of the current Tennessee football team are playing the 2010 season having already earned an undergraduate degree. This distinction makes Tennessee third nationally in the number of graduates on their current football roster.
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Best bball program in school history and a football program climbing back up out of a deep and dark hole Fulmer sunk us into (and the digging of which Hamilton had no way to stop politically).

Ha, I even think Raleigh might save his job this year in baseball by building a solid NCAA squad.

Track should have the facilities to stay in the top 3 in the SEC with Arkansas and LSU.
 
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utvolpj said:
amazing that you went through that article only to pick out something MH did. Personally I'm more impressed with things like
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Did you read the headline?

Making $ is one of the most important ways to judge a program. The Director's Cup also focuses on winning, and Hamilton's tenure has seen our highest standings in that as well.
 
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Mike Hamilton also fired the best baseball coach we have ever had and replaced him with a man that can not even qualify for the SEC tournament. He made an awful hire in Lane Kiffin and that was Hamilton's hire and his alone. He handled the firing of Phil Fulmer badly even going so far as to say Fulmer had lost control of the football team which was and still is a lie. Our men's basketball program,baseball program and football programs are all under the cloud of a NCAA investigation. Before you also give credit to Hamilton for hiring Dooley, Hamilton was told to hire Dooley because he has respect for SEC and Tennessee football tradition which Kiffin did not. Hamilton needs to be fired the sooner the better. Just because he has made money for UT does not make him a good AD it just makes him good at raising money-big difference.
 
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orange_peel said:
Mike Hamilton also fired the best baseball coach we have ever had and replaced him with a man that can not even qualify for the SEC tournament. He made an awful hire in Lane Kiffin and that was Hamilton's hire and his alone. He handled the firing of Phil Fulmer badly even going so far as to say Fulmer had lost control of the football team which was and still is a lie. Our men's basketball program,baseball program and football programs are all under the cloud of a NCAA investigation. Before you also give credit to Hamilton for hiring Dooley, Hamilton was told to hire Dooley because he has respect for SEC and Tennessee football tradition which Kiffin did not. Hamilton needs to be fired the sooner the better. Just because he has made money for UT does not make him a good AD it just makes him good at raising money-big difference.
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You may not have understood the APR portion of the report.

I will make it plain.

Rod Delmonico did not graduate enough players. He got us so screwed that we lost scholarships. If we kept going on that track we would have been decimated worse than a basketball team losing two scholarships on probation. Ships are shared in baseball so you cannot afford to go down 2-4 without knowing you are going to be in the basement in the SEC.
 
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orange_peel said:
Mike Hamilton also fired the best baseball coach we have ever had and replaced him with a man that can not even qualify for the SEC tournament. He made an awful hire in Lane Kiffin and that was Hamilton's hire and his alone. He handled the firing of Phil Fulmer badly even going so far as to say Fulmer had lost control of the football team which was and still is a lie. Our men's basketball program,baseball program and football programs are all under the cloud of a NCAA investigation. Before you also give credit to Hamilton for hiring Dooley, Hamilton was told to hire Dooley because he has respect for SEC and Tennessee football tradition which Kiffin did not. Hamilton needs to be fired the sooner the better. Just because he has made money for UT does not make him a good AD it just makes him good at raising money-big difference.
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Fulmer did lose control of the team and the program was driven into the ditch on his watch. Facts don't lie...
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
Did you read the headline?

Making $ is one of the most important ways to judge a program. The Director's Cup also focuses on winning, and Hamilton's tenure has seen our highest standings in that as well.
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I did but you obviously skipped the first half of the article. Your priorities seem to be a little out of whack when you step on the actual student-athletes to pat MH on the back
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
You may not have understood the APR portion of the report.

I will make it plain.

Rod Delmonico did not graduate enough players. He got us so screwed that we lost scholarships. If we kept going on that track we would have been decimated worse than a basketball team losing two scholarships on probation. Ships are shared in baseball so you cannot afford to go down 2-4 without knowing you are going to be in the basement in the SEC.
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Delmonico sent many players to MLB careers and I believe one even played in the world series this season. I believe this also affects the APR. Delmonico went to 2 maybe 3 world series we had only been to one before.Raleigh is terrible anyone with any objectivity can see that. I can only remember 1 time in my lifetime when UT's football program was under NCAA investigation and never the bb or baseball teams.
Ley me make it even plainer Hamilton need to be fired today!
 
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orange_peel said:
Mike Hamilton also fired the best baseball coach we have ever had and replaced him with a man that can not even qualify for the SEC tournament. He made an awful hire in Lane Kiffin and that was Hamilton's hire and his alone. He handled the firing of Phil Fulmer badly even going so far as to say Fulmer had lost control of the football team which was and still is a lie. Our men's basketball program,baseball program and football programs are all under the cloud of a NCAA investigation. Before you also give credit to Hamilton for hiring Dooley, Hamilton was told to hire Dooley because he has respect for SEC and Tennessee football tradition which Kiffin did not. Hamilton needs to be fired the sooner the better. Just because he has made money for UT does not make him a good AD it just makes him good at raising money-big difference.
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So the Kiffin hire was his alone, but he was told to hire Dooley. Can't have it both ways. MH didnt send the illegal texts or set up the BBQ, didnt send the hostesses to the HS game, etc. The Fulmer firing was handled badly(should have been done after the season), but IIRC, this wasnt the first coach to be fired midseason. Not a big baseball fan and don't know enough about the program to talk about it, so I won't go there. Making money, I would imagine, is a huge requirement to be an AD. How many athletics departments made money last year? On top of that, look at the facility improvements over the last several years.
 
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I was about as big of a fan of Rod as of Ted Kennedy and the two shared several traits.

I also am not a fan at all of Raleigh. I wanted him fired last year.

If UT gets huge penalties from the NCAA, Mike will be gone. If we do not, all of the naysayers will look idiotic.

Regardless of what happens with the NCAA, Mike is the best fundraiser in the history of the TN athletic department and it is not even close.
 
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orange_peel said:
Delmonico sent many players to MLB careers and I believe one even played in the world series this season. I believe this also affects the APR. Delmonico went to 2 maybe 3 world series we had only been to one before.Raleigh is terrible anyone with any objectivity can see that. I can only remember 1 time in my lifetime when UT's football program was under NCAA investigation and never the bb or baseball teams.
Ley me make it even plainer Hamilton need to be fired today!
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Delmonico didn't send a soul to the Bigs. Their talent got them there.
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orange_peel said:
Delmonico sent many players to MLB careers and I believe one even played in the world series this season. I believe this also affects the APR. Delmonico went to 2 maybe 3 world series we had only been to one before.Raleigh is terrible anyone with any objectivity can see that. I can only remember 1 time in my lifetime when UT's football program was under NCAA investigation and never the bb or baseball teams.
Ley me make it even plainer Hamilton need to be fired today!
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I am almost certain the APR has absolutely nothing to do with how many players become pros or play in the World Series.

"The APR is based on the eligibility, retention and graduation of each student-athlete on scholarship."
 
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BigPapaVol said:
wonder how many ADs of this era can say exactly the same thing?
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A newly released NCAA report shows that just 14 of the 120 Football Bowl Subdivision schools made money from campus athletics in the 2009 fiscal year, down from 25 the year before. Tennessee was one of those.
 
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manfromtn said:
A newly released NCAA report shows that just 14 of the 120 Football Bowl Subdivision schools made money from campus athletics in the 2009 fiscal year, down from 25 the year before. Tennessee was one of those.
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Not sure the point. I know we're one of the few to make money, but that's not the function of the athletic department.
 
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NYYVol said:
Which explains why Hamilton is in there.
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Well it's not like it's a great feat to raise money at Tennessee. It's a rabid fan base that has always been willing to part ways with their hard earned money. I don't have to look at who made money and i bet most are in the South and in this conference. TV money and national exposure does Hammy's job for him.
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
UT athletic budget shows $4 million surplus GoVolsXtra

Numbers do not lie.

The economy is HURTING, and many schools are as well, particularly in donations which are often predicated on major donors having taxable income that gives them a reason to give...this is not about a TV contract, our giving is way up.
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The UTAD never made money before Hambone? :crazy:

What is not lost on me is these are socialist institutions raking in mad jack.....
 
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What about the golf practice facility? That clearly puts us over the top as the best athletic department in America.

/sarcasm
 
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You guys are struggling pretty seriously here with logic and fundraising.

Go ahead and examine what fundraising was like with Dickey before Hamilton got in his AD. Go ahead and look at giving to other SEC programs. Giving to programs that are TONS more successful in wins than ours during the same time period.

The true story of Hamilton will be 10 years after he is gone. I hope we get someone else in with similar gifting, and I am sure they will benefit from the relationships he cultivated that led to some individuals feeling very happy to open up MAJOR checks for the school, but I will be surprised if there is not a big fall off.
 
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Comparison to Dickey makes no sense. He was from the old school of coach to AD transition, when fundraising was a different animal.

The function of the AD is to win games in order to maintain prominence for the university it supports. Fundraising, especially in a goofball setup like that at UT, is a secondary function. If the programs continue to get the press that marks the current state of the athletic dept, fundraising will fall through the floor.
 
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I guess i'm just not up with the times. I thought the job of a Athletic Director was to direct athletics.
 
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