U of Miami thugs and hooligans

[lawgator1]

Several folks on this board have commented with dismay at some of the off-the-field problems of UT players. No offense, but for hooliganism and thuggery, the University of Miami is hands down #1.

Have you ever looked into the stands at their games? I've been to one or two. Let me tell you right now that at least 60 percent of the people at any given UM home game have never stepped foot on the campus.



From ESPN....

A 2-year-old profanity-laced recording that denigrates women and minorities surfaced on the Web on Tuesday, putting the University of Miami's athletic department on the defensive about its image.


Miami's carefully cultivated image as a school well-past the days that earned it the reputation as a program lacking institutional control may have taken a blow when the rap song, which sources told ESPN.com includes the voices of several football players, surfaced on the Internet.


A group calling itself the 7th Floor Crew -- the name reportedly comes from the seventh floor of the Mahoney Residential College, campus housing at Miami -- made a recording referencing multiple acts of group sex, derogatory terms for women and minorities and dozens of curse words that lasts approximately 9 minutes. School officials say the song was recorded two years ago, but that seems to offer little solace.


"The Athletic Department has been made aware of a private audio recording made two years ago by students in a residence hall, some of whom were student-athletes," athletic director Paul Dee said Wednesday night in a statement through the school's sports information department. "The content of the recording is unfortunate, inappropriate and demeaning. This speech is not appropriate and does not reflect the values of the University or the Athletic Department.


"While the recording was made privately, it was not intended for public distribution or use. To be clear, the University and the Athletic Department disapprove of the content and its references. To those who may hear this material, we apologize. Any students whose voices can be identified will be subject to appropriate discipline and/or counseling."


Kyle Munzenrieder, a Miami student and author of the blog Miamity.com that published a report on the song, identified at least one of the members of the 7th Floor Crew as a current football player.


"I live on the 6th floor, and have good friends on the 7th floor, and those two floors are where a lot of football players live," Munzenrieder wrote ESPN.com in an e-mail Wednesday night. "The song really isn't indicative of the attitude of the current football players, and the 7th floor isn't some sort of hedonistic fantasy dorm zone."

[hatvol96]

Originally posted by lawgator1@Nov 17, 2005 3:51 PM
[b]Several folks on this board have commented with dismay at some of the off-the-field problems of UT players.* No offense, but for hooliganism and thuggery, the University of Miami is hands down #1.

Have you ever looked into the stands at their games?* I've been to one or two.* Let me tell you right now that at least 60 percent of the people at any given UM home game have never stepped foot on the campus.
From ESPN....

A 2-year-old profanity-laced recording that denigrates women and minorities surfaced on the Web on Tuesday, putting the University of Miami's athletic department on the defensive about its image.
Miami's carefully cultivated image as a school well-past the days that earned it the reputation as a program lacking institutional control may have taken a blow when the rap song, which sources told ESPN.com includes the voices of several football players, surfaced on the Internet.
A group calling itself the 7th Floor Crew -- the name reportedly comes from the seventh floor of the Mahoney Residential College, campus housing at Miami -- made a recording referencing multiple acts of group sex, derogatory terms for women and minorities and dozens of curse words that lasts approximately 9 minutes. School officials say the song was recorded two years ago, but that seems to offer little solace.
"The Athletic Department has been made aware of a private audio recording made two years ago by students in a residence hall, some of whom were student-athletes," athletic director Paul Dee said Wednesday night in a statement through the school's sports information department. "The content of the recording is unfortunate, inappropriate and demeaning. This speech is not appropriate and does not reflect the values of the University or the Athletic Department.
"While the recording was made privately, it was not intended for public distribution or use. To be clear, the University and the Athletic Department disapprove of the content and its references. To those who may hear this material, we apologize. Any students whose voices can be identified will be subject to appropriate discipline and/or counseling."
Kyle Munzenrieder, a Miami student and author of the blog Miamity.com that published a report on the song, identified at least one of the members of the 7th Floor Crew as a current football player.
"I live on the 6th floor, and have good friends on the 7th floor, and those two floors are where a lot of football players live," Munzenrieder wrote ESPN.com in an e-mail Wednesday night. "The song really isn't indicative of the attitude of the current football players, and the 7th floor isn't some sort of hedonistic fantasy dorm zone."

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Nice to see you conveniently omitted the portion of the story containing the fact that not a single player has been convicted of a criminal offense during Larry Coker's tenure.

[surrealvol]

I think that most of those guys on the Miami sideline wearing coats and ties are probably player's parole officers...

[lawgator1]

Originally posted by hatvol96@Nov 17, 2005 4:01 PM
[b]Nice to see you conveniently omitted the portion of the story containing the fact that not a single player has been convicted of a criminal offense during Larry Coker's tenure.

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Huh? Here's a link to the story itself: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2226701

I don't see anything about that in there. Maybe I missed it.

[hatvol96]

Originally posted by lawgator1@Nov 17, 2005 4:53 PM
[b]Huh?* Here's a link to the story itself: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2226701

I don't see anything about that in there.* Maybe I missed it.

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I apologize. The arrest issue is mentioned in Pat Forde's ESPN.com commentary on this situation.

[lawgator1]

Originally posted by hatvol96@Nov 17, 2005 5:07 PM
[b]I apologize. The arrest issue is mentioned in Pat Forde's ESPN.com commentary on this situation.

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Ohhhhh. Okay, no worries.

I'll pound on Miami like no tomorrow, but not to the point of taking stuff out of context. I'll look for that article.

[checkerboard_charly]

its a rap song. that is all rap is.


big deal.

[lawgator1]

Originally posted by checkerboard_charly@Nov 17, 2005 9:01 PM
[b]its a rap song. that is all rap is.
big deal.

[snapback]194530[/snapback]

True, but it makes them look bad.

And that makes me happy.

I know that is juvenile.

I don't care.

[checkerboard_charly]

Originally posted by lawgator1@Nov 17, 2005 9:45 PM
[b]True, but it makes them look bad.

And that makes me happy.

I know that is juvenile.

I don't care.

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u think that miami is the only school who have rappers or wannabe thugs or gangstas. hell no.

all the programs are full of young black males. and that is what they like. only a certain few will actually take it farther than they should.

take a look around gainesville law. or knoxville or tuscaloosa. it is everywhere.

this is a song. not an act of violence or anything like that. reminds me of t.o.

he has never once been in any kind of trouble. he plays his ass off every play. but he likes to talk so now he is the most hated. biggest bunch of crap on the planet.

hell sean taylor killed someone and he is still playing. so did ray lewis, and he is a king in baltimore. we need to take a good look at what we are letting these guys get away with.

[CSpindizzy]

I'm sure Mr. Kyle Smokinreefer is either one big bad dude with lots of protection or he's being paid a lot of visits by people not too thrilled with him commenting to ESPN on this making the story even bigger than it needs to be.

[CSpindizzy]

Originally posted by checkerboard_charly@Nov 17, 2005 9:50 PM
[b]so did ray lewis, and he is a king in baltimore.

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No Ray was smart enough to have his right-hand man do the killing. then they both deny it. Out of three people who were there one is dead and the other two deny....good system huh?

[CSpindizzy]

We can't forget about Mr. Winslow Jr. blow up in your face about being pissed, the U and all that jazz. Put a gun in his hand that day and there'd be a handful of dead reporters....

[IBleedOrange]

Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 17, 2005 11:38 PM
[b]We can't forget about Mr. Winslow Jr. blow up in your face about being pissed, the U and all that jazz. Put a gun in his hand that day and there'd be a handful of dead reporters....

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because he's a "-------" soldier!!!!!! and apparently knocking a TE down on the line of scrimmage is illegal

[CSpindizzy]

Originally posted by IBleedOrange@Nov 17, 2005 10:59 PM
[b]because he's a "-------" soldier!!!!!!* and apparently knocking a TE down on the line of scrimmage is illegal

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He thinks he's a soldier huh? Throw that punk in Baghdad and see how quick he wets his pants.

[ukvols]

I know this is off-topic, but I don't care...T-O does not play his ass off. It is routine for him to run hard until he is close to the sideline and then literally strut out of bounds instead of challenging a smaller defender for extra yardage. As for all of the negative attention he receives, I think it is fair to say that some of that should also go to Steve Smith. I have never heard Smith snub his teammates to the media, but Smith's endzone celebrations are selfish and bad-spirited and have no place in football. You'll never see Tomlinson act like that. Sorry for digressing, but T-O and S-S have been on my mind.