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Old 03-14-2010, 10:40 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I would rather a computer generate a bracket based on the RPI then the crap the selection committe put out.

Duke hasn't beat a seed higher then #5 in twelve years, so they reward them by giving them the easiest rode to the final four? They are the weakest #1 seed, how do you not put WV in their bracket as the 2 seed?

It's obviously biased.
The bracket was really garbage this year, but the history argument is nonsensical.
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Old 03-14-2010, 10:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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That's the argument being used to defend Duke's bracket, their history in the tournament.
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Old 03-14-2010, 10:43 PM   #18 (permalink)
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While things are getting dumped, the RPI should be too. It is obviously completely ignored by the Duke Selection Committee.
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Old 03-14-2010, 10:45 PM   #19 (permalink)
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That's the argument being used to defend Duke's bracket, their history in the tournament.
It has been used, but it has been garbage every time.
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Lunardi went 9/64 in his pre-selection show, meaning he only placed 9 teams in their correct region and seed. Of course, it can be difficult when you have chimpanzees running the selection committee.
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I'm not really blaming Lunardi. It is tough for a rational person to predict what a committee will do. But if his predictions end up having almost no correlation with what the bracket ends up looking like, then why all the incessant ESPN face time? Why bother with it? Mel Kiper Jr gets as much right as Lunardi does, and that's saying someting.
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I'm not really blaming Lunardi. It is tough for a rational person to predict what a committee will do. But if his predictions end up having almost no correlation with what the bracket ends up looking like, then why all the incessant ESPN face time? Why bother with it? Mel Kiper Jr gets as much right as Lunardi does, and that's saying someting.
Exactly.

If he removed any sense whatsoever of quality basketball, he'd be better at predicting.
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If he removed any sense whatsoever of quality basketball, he'd be better at predicting.
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Pretty much what the General said today about the Committee.
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I would rather a computer generate a bracket based on the RPI then the crap the selection committe put out.

Duke hasn't beat a seed higher then #5 in twelve years, so they reward them by giving them the easiest rode to the final four? They are the weakest #1 seed, how do you not put WV in their bracket as the 2 seed?

It's obviously biased.
The RPI is a flawed metric. All metrics are flawed to a certain extent, but the RPI is really flawed. I certainly wouldn't support the RPI as the sole determining factor.
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The RPI is a flawed metric. All metrics are flawed to a certain extent, but the RPI is really flawed. I certainly wouldn't support the RPI as the sole determining factor.
It'd basically become the BCS of college basketball; almost universally reviled by college basketball fans.

But then again, at least with basketball, the champions are determined on the court.
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At least we're still working with an honest way to produce a national champion.
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At least we're still working with an honest way to produce a national champion.

Not really when you look at how a #8 has to be beat up by everyone to get there while someone like Duke gets to play a few warm-up games before they start playing. As far as the guess brackets everyone puts out, they are just as useful as a preseason football poll.
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Its just speculation which is pretty much half of anything people post on here
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