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Old 01-06-2010, 12:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Maybe this will help him concern himself with some of the "details" he has overlooked for a while now.
I'm just waiting to see how long it takes the fairweather simpletons who got sucked in by the Pearl sham to chisel the egg off their faces for saying the reason they didn't support Jerry Green's teams is that they were filled with "thugs." I assume those idiots will be holding a ticket burning bonfire outside TBA tonight.
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Yea, because a coach is supposed to keep a leash on men in their twentys.
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Old 01-06-2010, 12:30 PM   #18 (permalink)
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is agreeing with cowherd supposed to back up your stance or weaken it?
I'd say if Cowherd is smart enough to see it that it is pretty darn obvious.
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Yea, because a coach is supposed to keep a leash on men in their twentys.
Big difference between a leash and a blind eye.
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Yea, because a coach is supposed to keep a leash on men in their twentys.
It's a hell of a lot easier for a coach to control and manage 12 athletes compared to 100 athletes in a basketball vs. football standpoint. Very successful programs don't have these problems all too often
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Old 01-06-2010, 12:35 PM   #21 (permalink)
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It's a hell of a lot easier for a coach to control and manage 12 athletes compared to 100 athletes in a basketball vs. football standpoint. Very successful programs don't have these problems all too often
We haven't had these problems all too often either. We've had dismissals, and ex-players that committed crimes, but nothing like this. I wouldn't call us very successful though.
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Perhaps we can now get rid of the gang look. Getting rid of the headbands would be a nice touch too.
exqueeze me?? headbands and tattoos have nothing to do with someone being a good person and/or basketball player.
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exqueeze me?? headbands and tattoos have nothing to do with someone being a good person and/or basketball player.

No, image has nothing to do with anything. Jerry Green would completely agree with you. If you have no expectations of your team, you get the kind of results we are now dealing with.
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Any comments to share From Bernard King? Wasn't he the featured speaker? No real freeness of speech on his part to comment on the criminal element considering he was quite the criminal himself while he was here.
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Any comments to share From Bernard King? Wasn't he the featured speaker? No real freeness of speech on his part to comment on the criminal element considering he was quite the criminal himself while he was here.
Nothing terribly noteworthy. If you've heard speeches or interviews from Bernard since he began coming back to Knoxville more frequently, there was nothing new.
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Old 01-06-2010, 01:36 PM   #27 (permalink)
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This is one area where I actually agree with Cowherd...

I can give a football coach a pass in areas like this for an isolated incident. A basketball coach has as many assistants as players, and should know what the hell is going on with his players. Especially with the number of players involved here.
I am not connected so I am only hunching but doesnt the above statement only hold true if these guys are all thugs and ****ty people and not college kids who made a mistake one time?
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It's a hell of a lot easier for a coach to control and manage 12 athletes compared to 100 athletes in a basketball vs. football standpoint. Very successful programs don't have these problems all too often
Actually you are comparing two different things here. Are we supposed to get the athletes that very successful programs recruit? If I has a 1500 SAT, 4.0 GPA and averaged 30pts do you think I am considering UT?

We are dealing with mid-to-high tier athletes and that is all. We don't get the elite kids every year and have our pick with who we feel we should accept.

BUT I WILL GIVE YOU SOME

Redick charged with DWI in 2006
Kansas basketball program involved in campus fight
Devendord domestic incident
Mornigstar arrested with DWI
Dozier, Taggart, Shawne WIlliams, Jeff Robinson memphis tigers all get in trouble
UNC recruit gets community srvc and probation for possesion of marijuan


Do you have any other top Basketball programs??
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not college kids who made a mistake one time?
this isn't really a first offense kind of thing. If it is it's extremely bad luck
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I am not connected so I am only hunching but doesnt the above statement only hold true if these guys are all thugs and ****ty people and not college kids who made a mistake one time?
Since when were, "thugs and ****ty people" and "college kids who make a mistake" mutually exclusive of one another?

It's hard to imagine that you've either watched much men's bball over the last 3-4 years or read a newspaper in the last week without gaining some awareness that single person can be a thug, a ****ty person, a college student and make mistakes.
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