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Old 12-22-2009, 09:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I've been saying it from the start, and most thought I was crazy. Is it possible that Bruce is recruiting the wrong players. When we were playing our best basketball we had blue collar guys. (Chris Lofton, Dane Bradshaw, J Smith, Stanley Asumnu, and more) You don't have to tell those guys too much to work hard. You know they are going to lay it out there. The new players we have, (JP, Chism, Hopson, I could mention more), you need to push them more. Our leaders in the past pushed them. I know it sounds crazy, but if we would get more guys like Skylar Mcbee we would be better. Mcbee is the same kind of guy we had in the past, and won with.
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Old 12-22-2009, 10:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm not sure why everyone is so high on Mcbee. I know it's a cool story that a a kid can walkon and play on a deep team like Tennessee, but in all the games I've watched I don't think he has made a shot. He was hot at the first of the year but has been MIA ever since. The kid is only shooting 30% from the field and is also 9/27 from 3. There is a reason why he didn't get a scholarship offer from Tennessee... He doesn't have the athletic ability to play in the SEC. His defense is pretty insufficient as well, but so is case with the rest of the team.

He is getting playing time bc Pearl likes his "scrappiness" and hopes he will be able to hit a couple 3's when he's in. So far that hasn't worked out.
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i agree, and for the people who would argue this point all you have to do is show them, what all this talent has done, compared to the blue collars record w/ pearl.
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If you replace Wayne Chism and Scotty Hopson with clones of Skylar Mcbee, we win less games, not more. Lots less.
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The players we have now just need to realize there is a big difference in a pick up game and college basketball.
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When I look at the basketball team, I don't see any "muscle" down low. Sure Chism is "big" but he is not physical. Brian Williams was supposed to fill this void, but let's face it, his development has been slow at best. We need a player that is big, physical down low, and can give us a presence underneath. Playing 4 guards and living and dying by the three is not going to win many championships IMO.
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He is getting playing time bc Pearl likes his "scrappiness" and hopes he will be able to hit a couple 3's when he's in. So far that hasn't worked out.
Yeah, but he tries real hard and doesn't yell after he dunks.
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If you replace Wayne Chism and Scotty Hopson with clones of Skylar Mcbee, we win less games, not more. Lots less.
+1. Chism actually has a better 3pt % than McBee.
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Yeah, but he tries real hard and doesn't yell after he dunks.

Good Point. I really don't think Prince will ever get it. I've never seen a player get beat so much bc he is busy soluting after making a good pass or dunk.
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Playing 4 guards and living and dying by the three is not going to win many championships IMO.
Exactly. Do I even need to point out that we were 2-22 from 3 against USC. At some point you just have to realize that your shots aren't falling and start doing something else. But that falls on Pearl as much as it falls on the players.
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I've been saying it from the start, and most thought I was crazy. Is it possible that Bruce is recruiting the wrong players. When we were playing our best basketball we had blue collar guys. (Chris Lofton, Dane Bradshaw, J Smith, Stanley Asumnu, and more) You don't have to tell those guys too much to work hard. You know they are going to lay it out there. The new players we have, (JP, Chism, Hopson, I could mention more), you need to push them more. Our leaders in the past pushed them. I know it sounds crazy, but if we would get more guys like Skylar Mcbee we would be better. Mcbee is the same kind of guy we had in the past, and won with.
Maybe you should be coach???
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good to see all that "talent" being put to good use
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When I look at the basketball team, I don't see any "muscle" down low. Sure Chism is "big" but he is not physical. Brian Williams was supposed to fill this void, but let's face it, his development has been slow at best. We need a player that is big, physical down low, and can give us a presence underneath. Playing 4 guards and living and dying by the three is not going to win many championships IMO.
We lost a lot of physicality with Ramar, Tabb and Crews. They may not be role models, but they played tough. I think Kenny Hall will as well. But most of the players out there (Hopson, Tatum, Chism, Woolridge) are not known for defense or tenacity.
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I've been saying it from the start, and most thought I was crazy. Is it possible that Bruce is recruiting the wrong players. When we were playing our best basketball we had blue collar guys. (Chris Lofton, Dane Bradshaw, J Smith, Stanley Asumnu, and more) You don't have to tell those guys too much to work hard. You know they are going to lay it out there. The new players we have, (JP, Chism, Hopson, I could mention more), you need to push them more. Our leaders in the past pushed them. I know it sounds crazy, but if we would get more guys like Skylar Mcbee we would be better. Mcbee is the same kind of guy we had in the past, and won with.
this is a 100% correct post, IMO......... also, those teams were playing with 3 small guards, who were very quick, and got alot of steals, and could play up=tempo.... If Pearl wants to play the same style, then he needs to change up his lineup to this:

PG Prince/ Maze
SG Maze/ Goins
SF Hopson/ Tatum
PF Tyler/ Woolridge
C Williams/ Hall

However, if Pearl actually wants to use the height and half-court gaem better (which they suck at), then he should go with:

PG Prince/ Maze
SG Hopson/ Tatum
SF Tyler/ Woolrigde
PF Chism/ Hall
C Williams/ Hall

Great coaches can alter the lineup around......... not sure what Pearl is trying to do, I'm really confused so far this year, actually.....
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