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12-12-2009, 07:05 AM
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| Maybe CBP needs to call out Hopson now! Seriously, 1 point last night and only 3 shots. He played well the first 4 games, but hasn't done anything lately. Maybe the coach needs to call him out like he did Prince in the media. Prince responded with 17 last night.
I just don't get this team yet. We have three players that could dominate (Smith, Chism, and Hopson) but they are not aggressive and look for their shots. Hopson is not agressive at all, Smith passes up open looks at 3's and looks to pass before shooting, and Chism could dominate inside if he would stay in the paint.
To be the best that we can be, we need for these players to take over and carry the team. Each is capable of scoring 15 every night. |
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12-12-2009, 08:42 AM
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| | Don't Walk on the Grass! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bristol, TN
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| Pearl is turning out to be another Jerry Green it looks like. Loads of talent and total inability to control them.
__________________ Orangegrass is better than Bluegrass. |
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12-12-2009, 09:27 AM
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| | Butch-slappin' foes Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Kentucky
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Originally Posted by orangegrass Pearl is turning out to be another Jerry Green it looks like. Loads of talent and total inability to control them. | In a way, you are right, but our talent right now just seems to be overrated. Hopson's frame and athleticism alone helped him dominate Kentucky high school ball, but that hasn't translated at all into college ball. There is no way he should have been the 5th overall player in the nation. Woolridge and Jurick were overrated. Ramar Smith and Duke Crews were overrated. But still, he has the talent and isn't winning the games that really matter (outside of Florida and Memphis during the regular season a couple of times). |
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12-12-2009, 09:58 AM
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| | Lovely Jennifer Tilly | be patient peeps The sec schedule is not far off, I believe that is when you will see them step it up |
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12-12-2009, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tonyvolsfan05 be patient peeps The sec schedule is not far off, I believe that is when you will see them step it up | I see your point to wait and see what we do when the game is on the line.
But Hopson should be a go to guy anytime we need him. Last night he wasn't. That worries me.
This isn't just Hopson's fault. It's CBP's too. |
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12-12-2009, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ALock4UT In a way, you are right, but our talent right now just seems to be overrated. Hopson's frame and athleticism alone helped him dominate Kentucky high school ball, but that hasn't translated at all into college ball. There is no way he should have been the 5th overall player in the nation. Woolridge and Jurick were overrated. Ramar Smith and Duke Crews were overrated. But still, he has the talent and isn't winning the games that really matter (outside of Florida and Memphis during the regular season a couple of times). | It's getting hard for me to keep believing that all our top players brought here are all overrated. |
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12-12-2009, 01:33 PM
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| i hate to keep beating a dead horse... but then again i kinda like it too.
many talented offensive players need RHYTHM/confidence to get going. RHTYHM/confidence primarily comes from MOVEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!
guys.... WE HAVE NO FKKIN MOVEMENT IN OUR OFFENSE. scotty generally goes to one wing and stands there until someone passes him the ball. he doesn't look ready to shoot or drive... he generally doesn't catch the ball in a way that looks like he's in RHYTHM to do anything with it.
in a well drilled, well coached, purposeful half-court offense... the players on the floor know WHO and WHERE the coach/offense wants them to score. they move the ball and work the ENTIRE floor back and forth until one of those players comes open in a way they know "this is my shot".
our guys stand around and watch chism and maze pass it back and forth 25 feet from the basket.
this is why tyler and hopson look so terrible on offense. no movement, no rhythm, no confidence... just frustration.
the fact chism is somehow in a better position to get up his "threes" and hopson is not... is just plain terrible coaching. it's about 25% player dependant and 75% coaching. i honestly can't figure out how CBP can stand to watch his biggest guy jack up threes at a 33% success rate... when his 5 star "1 and doner" is not involved in the offense.
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12-12-2009, 02:09 PM
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| Pearl has called on Hopson to be more aggressive . . . repeatedly. |
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12-12-2009, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol Pearl has called on Hopson to be more aggressive . . . repeatedly. | oh. well thats certainly quality coaching there.
"scotty, shoot more." god that's genius. |
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12-12-2009, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BasketVolKid i hate to keep beating a dead horse... but then again i kinda like it too.
many talented offensive players need RHYTHM/confidence to get going. RHTYHM/confidence primarily comes from MOVEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!
guys.... WE HAVE NO FKKIN MOVEMENT IN OUR OFFENSE. scotty generally goes to one wing and stands there until someone passes him the ball. he doesn't look ready to shoot or drive... he generally doesn't catch the ball in a way that looks like he's in RHYTHM to do anything with it.
in a well drilled, well coached, purposeful half-court offense... the players on the floor know WHO and WHERE the coach/offense wants them to score. they move the ball and work the ENTIRE floor back and forth until one of those players comes open in a way they know "this is my shot".
our guys stand around and watch chism and maze pass it back and forth 25 feet from the basket.
this is why tyler and hopson look so terrible on offense. no movement, no rhythm, no confidence... just frustration.
the fact chism is somehow in a better position to get up his "threes" and hopson is not... is just plain terrible coaching. it's about 25% player dependant and 75% coaching. i honestly can't figure out how CBP can stand to watch his biggest guy jack up threes at a 33% success rate... when his 5 star "1 and doner" is not involved in the offense. | +1
Well said. |
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12-12-2009, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BasketVolKid i hate to keep beating a dead horse... but then again i kinda like it too.
many talented offensive players need RHYTHM/confidence to get going. RHTYHM/confidence primarily comes from MOVEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!
guys.... WE HAVE NO FKKIN MOVEMENT IN OUR OFFENSE. scotty generally goes to one wing and stands there until someone passes him the ball. he doesn't look ready to shoot or drive... he generally doesn't catch the ball in a way that looks like he's in RHYTHM to do anything with it.
in a well drilled, well coached, purposeful half-court offense... the players on the floor know WHO and WHERE the coach/offense wants them to score. they move the ball and work the ENTIRE floor back and forth until one of those players comes open in a way they know "this is my shot".
our guys stand around and watch chism and maze pass it back and forth 25 feet from the basket.
this is why tyler and hopson look so terrible on offense. no movement, no rhythm, no confidence... just frustration.
the fact chism is somehow in a better position to get up his "threes" and hopson is not... is just plain terrible coaching. it's about 25% player dependant and 75% coaching. i honestly can't figure out how CBP can stand to watch his biggest guy jack up threes at a 33% success rate... when his 5 star "1 and doner" is not involved in the offense. | That sums it up very nicely! |
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12-12-2009, 07:38 PM
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| | Senior Member | The pressure on Hop's in enormous. I think its getting to him. Maybe Peyton Manning should give a pregame speech. |
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12-13-2009, 12:20 AM
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| GVX has a new Hopson story |
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12-13-2009, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ALock4UT In a way, you are right, but our talent right now just seems to be overrated. Hopson's frame and athleticism alone helped him dominate Kentucky high school ball, but that hasn't translated at all into college ball. There is no way he should have been the 5th overall player in the nation. Woolridge and Jurick were overrated. Ramar Smith and Duke Crews were overrated. But still, he has the talent and isn't winning the games that really matter (outside of Florida and Memphis during the regular season a couple of times). | There's always talk about "Wait until he gets his players here". Well Bruce's recruits are all here. He wanted these guys, and the record took a slight hit after the blue collar guys Lofton, Ramar, and JaJuan left  Serious question, who recruited Lofton and the 2 Smiths? |
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12-13-2009, 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BasketVolKid i hate to keep beating a dead horse... but then again i kinda like it too.
many talented offensive players need RHYTHM/confidence to get going. RHTYHM/confidence primarily comes from MOVEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!
guys.... WE HAVE NO FKKIN MOVEMENT IN OUR OFFENSE. scotty generally goes to one wing and stands there until someone passes him the ball. he doesn't look ready to shoot or drive... he generally doesn't catch the ball in a way that looks like he's in RHYTHM to do anything with it.
in a well drilled, well coached, purposeful half-court offense... the players on the floor know WHO and WHERE the coach/offense wants them to score. they move the ball and work the ENTIRE floor back and forth until one of those players comes open in a way they know "this is my shot".
our guys stand around and watch chism and maze pass it back and forth 25 feet from the basket.
this is why tyler and hopson look so terrible on offense. no movement, no rhythm, no confidence... just frustration.
the fact chism is somehow in a better position to get up his "threes" and hopson is not... is just plain terrible coaching. it's about 25% player dependant and 75% coaching. i honestly can't figure out how CBP can stand to watch his biggest guy jack up threes at a 33% success rate... when his 5 star "1 and doner" is not involved in the offense. | This is a stupid post. I don't care for our style of offense either, but I didn't see you complaining about the lack of movement here when Hopson was shooting 70% from three. If there is a positive about our offense, it is that it spreads the floor enough to allow dribble penetration and good looks from three. Hopson's problems do not arise from our offensive scheme. They are in his head. |
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