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Old 11-03-2009, 02:12 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I think hell be first team all america before he leaves. Hell get better at shooting, which hes already great at, and put some more muscle on his lanky body
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:30 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Anyone still want to go on the record and say Hopson is going to the NBA? I laughed when I first saw people say this and will continue to do so. So the floor is yours...
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:53 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Hopson is a very talented player. He played in high school at a lower level of competion and will need more time to fully develop his skills. He has NBA talent and will develop into a good NBA player.
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:11 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Anyone still want to go on the record and say Hopson is going to the NBA? I laughed when I first saw people say this and will continue to do so. So the floor is yours...
I'll put a bill on it right now.
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:25 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Hopson is a very talented player. He played in high school at a lower level of competion and will need more time to fully develop his skills. He has NBA talent and will develop into a good NBA player.
You are going to have to explain that bolded sentence, as it is... well... wrong.
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:57 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Perhaps you can fill us in on the high level of high school competion.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:06 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Perhaps you can fill us in on the high level of high school competion.
Fine. He played in Kentucky, where there are no "classes" in basketball, putting them in the same league all 200+ other schools in the state. UHA is one of the most successful programs in the state over the past two decades. They have produced players that went on to Tennessee (2,) Kentucky, St. John's (2,) Duke, Stanford, Notre Dame, Temple, Texas A&M, Clemson, and too many OVC-level and below schools to recount over that span. The school regularly plays in high-powered pre-season and holiday tournaments from Hoopfest to the Beach Ball Classic and Tennessee's own Steamboat Classic.

I'd say that puts his highschool level of competition on par with or better than just about anybody that didn't go to Oak Hill or play in the NY Catholic League. To characterize it as "lower level" is simply ill-informed.
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Fine. He played in Kentucky, where there are no "classes" in basketball, putting them in the same league all 200+ other schools in the state. UHA is one of the most successful programs in the state over the past two decades. They have produced players that went on to Tennessee (2,) Kentucky, St. John's (2,) Duke, Stanford, Notre Dame, Temple, Texas A&M, Clemson, and too many OVC-level and below schools to recount over that span. The school regularly plays in high-powered pre-season and holiday tournaments from Hoopfest to the Beach Ball Classic and Tennessee's own Steamboat Classic.

I'd say that puts his highschool level of competition on par with or better than just about anybody that didn't go to Oak Hill or play in the NY Catholic League. To characterize it as "lower level" is simply ill-informed.
Exactly. It's relative. Is Kentucky high school basketball the Detroit or Chicago PSLs? No. Is it better than the vast majority of high school basketball played elsewhere? Absolutely.
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I think people see the "Class A" by UHA and misunderstand. All classes compete against each other in KY, from 23 person Boonswaggle High to Louisville Male, Lex Cath, and PRP. UHA plays a good schedule, and Hopkinsville, for its size, is full of talent. The number of kids that have gone on to higher level play is staggering proportionally, and there are probably just as many that had the talent but could not make grades because of the lousy job, IMO, that our public schools do of preparing them.
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Exactly. It's relative. Is Kentucky high school basketball the Detroit or Chicago PSLs? No. Is it better than the vast majority of high school basketball played elsewhere? Absolutely.
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I think people see the "Class A" by UHA and misunderstand. All classes compete against each other in KY, from 23 person Boonswaggle High to Louisville Male, Lex Cath, and PRP. UHA plays a good schedule, and Hopkinsville, for its size, is full of talent. The number of kids that have gone on to higher level play is staggering proportionally, and there are probably just as many that had the talent but could not make grades because of the lousy job, IMO, that our public schools do of preparing them.
Probably the most accurate statement ever made on this board. Its horrific.
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Old 11-04-2009, 05:25 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Thanks for the information. I was going by the A classification. In TN that would be the smaller schools and the competion would not be good. I stand corrected as I assumed KY had the same type of classification.
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Thanks for the information. I was going by the A classification. In TN that would be the smaller schools and the competion would not be good. I stand corrected as I assumed KY had the same type of classification.
It is different. There is a separate All A Classic "state tournament" in February to which only small schools are invited, but there are no classifications in KHSAA basketball; they are all grouped together and compete in one big state tourney in March. Indiana was the same way for a long time, but I believe they have moved to a classification system like most states recently.

Even then, it is often dangerous to equate size with level of competition. Throughout the '80s and '90s, for instance (I haven't followed since,) East Robertson was as good of a HS program as you would find in Tennessee, and they were Class A.

BTW, Hopson's school, University Heights, has won the All A Classic 7 times since it was instituted in 1990, and has won the overall state title once.
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Old 11-04-2009, 05:42 PM   #73 (permalink)
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I should probably mention somewhere in this discussion of UHA that I am an alumnus.
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Scotty looks good again tonight.
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:43 PM   #75 (permalink)
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I think Scotty looked good tonight, as well. I'm betting on seeing at least an appreciable improvement from his Freshman season.
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