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Old 10-27-2009, 12:35 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Are you seriously telling me that Kentucky fans want Pearl over Calipari?
I'm telling you that the last two times they have been in the search process, the attributes that the fans have listed as what they want is Pearl. They would never come out and say it but it's him. Up tempo game, globe trotter play, all the stuff Hat said. Of course they, along with the Memphis crew hate him and call him names, but deep down both fan bases want a coach like Pearl. Heck, Cal doesn't play any more D than Bruce does. I guess KY is doomed to never making the final 4 then. That's too bad.
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Heck, Cal doesn't play any more D than Bruce does.
Of all the utterly moronic statements posted in support of Pearl, this one wins the prize. Memphis was arguably the best halfcourt defensive team in the country in '07-'08. Cal built it his reputation on defense at UMASS. If you don't know what you're talking about, it's best to just say nothing. Otherwise, you make your side of the debate look even worse than it normally does.
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Oh now it comes out, you're a Cal lover huh? You know if defense were so important no one would ever beat the 1st bald Kevin.
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:46 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Oh now it comes out, you're a Cal lover huh? You know if defense were so important no one would ever beat the 1st bald Kevin.
If bodypaint and freelance basketball were so effective, Tom Davis would have a bunch of national titles and Bruce Pearl wouldn't have spent a bunch of years at Southern Indiana.
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Of all the utterly moronic statements posted in support of Pearl, this one wins the prize. Memphis was arguably the best halfcourt defensive team in the country in '07-'08. Cal built it his reputation on defense at UMASS. If you don't know what you're talking about, it's best to just say nothing. Otherwise, you make your side of the debate look even worse than it normally does.
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I honestly felt like their halfcourt defense was even better last year than in '07-'08. They were by far the best defensive team that I saw in person all last year. The '07-'08 team had a lot more fire power offensively and played at a higher pace but imo probably wasn't as proficient defensively as last year's team. However, your point stands. Pearl's half court defense has never approached the level of Cal's; he was been able to make up for it head to head by exploiting Memphis' lack of a three point threat. Hopefully, he can do that against Cal at UK as well.
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hat do you agree or disagree that Pearl is the best coach the men's team has had in quite along time? i personally think he is. i do think he might not be the coach to bring us national championships with his style of play. but i do think he has done a great job of gettin Tennessee at least on the map and made it a more desirable job for when they go after the next big hire..what are your thoughts?
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Of all the utterly moronic statements posted in support of Pearl, this one wins the prize. Memphis was arguably the best halfcourt defensive team in the country in '07-'08. Cal built it his reputation on defense at UMASS. If you don't know what you're talking about, it's best to just say nothing. Otherwise, you make your side of the debate look even worse than it normally does.
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It does rival the silliness about player development being a strong suit.
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One last thing for those who don't know. I don't love Bruce, in fact I agree with Hat about Bruce coaching in Israel, but I do love UT and the Vols and I don't really care who the coach is as long as they are playing hard. They don't have to win every game, just play hard and never give up and I'm good. Pearl was the Kiffen before Kiffen. He got the guys to play a scrappy, never say die type of ball and he stepped on a lot of toes.

I don't agree with some of Bruce's life style choices but it's his life. He has brought an excitement to the basketVols that hasn't been there in a long time. He isn't perfect and you guys who don't like him have the right, but man you are missing some fun to watch basketball.
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hat do you agree or disagree that Pearl is the best coach the men's team has had in quite along time? i personally think he is. i do think he might not be the coach to bring us national championships with his style of play. but i do think he has done a great job of gettin Tennessee at least on the map and made it a more desirable job for when they go after the next big hire..what are your thoughts?
Is he better than the Petersons and Greens of the world? Sure. Has he elevated the profile of the program? Absolutely. Am I somewhat happy UT is paying him what they are? Yes, because it sets the precedent and makes it easier to pay his replacement the going rate.
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One last thing for those who don't know. I don't love Bruce, in fact I agree with Hat about Bruce coaching in Israel, but I do love UT and the Vols and I don't really care who the coach is as long as they are playing hard. They don't have to win every game, just play hard and never give up and I'm good. Pearl was the Kiffen before Kiffen. He got the guys to play a scrappy, never say die type of ball and he stepped on a lot of toes.

I don't agree with some of Bruce's life style choices but it's his life. He has brought an excitement to the basketVols that hasn't been there in a long time. He isn't perfect and you guys who don't like him have the right, but man you are missing some fun to watch basketball.
Generally agree, save the never say die bit, KiffEn reference and silliness about people missing fin to watch. We all watch every game. Some of us just happen to like organization and execution.
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Is he better than the Petersons and Greens of the world? Sure. Has he elevated the profile of the program? Absolutely. Am I somewhat happy UT is paying him what they are? Yes, because it sets the precedent and makes it easier to pay his replacement the going rate.
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i tend to agree with most of what you say with pearl. i dont think he will win us championships. i do think he has done well for the program. but arent we playing for championships? and we arent winning championships why pay the big bucks
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arent we playing for championships?
That should be the goal.
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I'm telling you that the last two times they have been in the search process, the attributes that the fans have listed as what they want is Pearl. They would never come out and say it but it's him. Up tempo game, globe trotter play, all the stuff Hat said. Of course they, along with the Memphis crew hate him and call him names, but deep down both fan bases want a coach like Pearl. Heck, Cal doesn't play any more D than Bruce does. I guess KY is doomed to never making the final 4 then. That's too bad.
This man is precocious, I tell you. Borderline revolutionary.
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I really think Scotty will be a lot better this year. To be a young kid coming in with that much hype, I don't think he dealt with it good. The whole 1 and done thing really screwed with this kid Now the pressure has lifted some, he has a year under his belt, and he is very, very talented. I see this kid lighting it up this year. Also, I do think JP improves his defense. People forget how high this kid stock was when he first came. He has something real nice but he's too darn skinny! If he had more upper body strength, his shots wouldn't be so altered when he attacks the rim. I sure hope he hit the weights in the off season.
My image of Scotty Hopson last year was literally seeing him melt playing Uk twice. I think he can put up 20 on some nights, but he'll disappear in big games.
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I realize that a forum is an opportunity to express opinions. That being said a post full of negative assumptions with no backbone of meaningful evidence is a waste of space IMO.

6) I will agree to go as far and say Scotty Hopson was not as aggressive or consistent as you would want a McDonald's all-American to be and that is a direct reflection of mental toughness but unless you are his sports psychologist I don't think you are in a fair position to state what his potential is mentally.

7) This team was not effective or even mediocre in half court d, but once again I don't see how anyone besides this staff can speak for the mentality of how this team is responding to extending back to the full court pressure. I would think that veterans in this program will be excited to go back to up tempo basketball and that is based on what I saw 2 years ago.

8) with 7 upper class-men that will be contributing to this team. and 3 more players with a year of experience under their belts in the SEC any statement regarding the potential of this team would be a complete gut feeling at this point, and would be unfair.
My evidence is from last year. Hopson melted in big games, this team refused to play D last year, and I believe after seeing last year they are a 25 win team, especially because we do not have a decent PG on this team
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