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10-20-2009, 09:42 AM
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| | "A Real Vol Fan" Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: On Old Rocky Top
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| No Respect? What else could you possibly call it...when Tyler Smith, the 2008 SEC Player of the Year is voted 5th place for the same honor( 2009 pre-season)...and get this...behind... a player who has never even played one single play in a NCAA basketball game. And what's with Wayne Chism being completely left off the All SEC team(behind A.J. Ogilvy...(huh?))? The only other word that I can come up with than "No Respect" is, ... BIAS. Come on media, I thought you guys took pride in looking at the facts? What happened this time? 
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10-20-2009, 09:46 AM
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| It's called "Bandwagon" media. |
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10-20-2009, 10:02 AM
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| All Conference will not be decided by January which is when I would expect TN fans to crow the loudest after UK has early struggles and TN destroys everyone on our schedule including Purdue or whoever we face off against in the championship.
What will decide the respect and the only thing these seniors will care about is finishing all the games, crushing the easy opponents and then trying to beat the ones with tons of talent like Memphis, Kansas and Kentucky.
Regardless of how it all plays out in the season and in the SEC tournament, what TN needs most is the depth to be a disruptive team that wears opponents out in the SEC tournament. If Goins can stop dribble penetration by opposing PGs, we will be a much better team this year. I will also repeat what I say all the time, JP Prince will get over the very low bar of expectations people have for him.
If Chism, Smith and Hopson all 3 play like 2nd team All SEC, and Prince and Maze/Goins play like 3rd team All SEC, we will do better than the teams with one guy getting sick numbers. |
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10-20-2009, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeHamiltonFan I will also repeat what I say all the time, JP Prince will get over the very low bar of expectations people have for him. | This shouldn't be very difficult. |
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10-20-2009, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol Tyler Smith wasn't the 08 SEC POY, nor was he close in the voting. | Sorry...Reference was to the 2008 preseason voting. 
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10-20-2009, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by volswin08 Sorry...Reference was to the 2008 preseason voting.  | he fell off the world because his play was generally less than expected last season. He abandoned his strengths and tried to be a highlight reel. Rarely is that rewarded with Ws or postseason accolades. |
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10-20-2009, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by volswin08 What else could you possibly call it...when Tyler Smith, the 2008 SEC Player of the Year is voted 5th place for the same honor( 2009 pre-season)...and get this...behind... a player who has never even played one single play in a NCAA basketball game. And what's with Wayne Chism being completely left off the All SEC team(behind A.J. Ogilvy...(huh?))? The only other word that I can come up with than "No Respect" is, ... BIAS. Come on media, I thought you guys took pride in looking at the facts? What happened this time?  | I really don't have a problem with any of the "slights" you mention. If John Wall is anywhere near as good as advertised, he's a serious candidate for POY. AJ Ogilvy is a solid choice for 1st team.
I don't know where you are getting your list, so I don't know what other choices bother you, but I see good arguments for both of those guys.
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10-20-2009, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by volswin08 What else could you possibly call it...when Tyler Smith, the 2008 SEC Player of the Year is voted 5th place for the same honor( 2009 pre-season)...and get this...behind... a player who has never even played one single play in a NCAA basketball game. And what's with Wayne Chism being completely left off the All SEC team(behind A.J. Ogilvy...(huh?))? The only other word that I can come up with than "No Respect" is, ... BIAS. Come on media, I thought you guys took pride in looking at the facts? What happened this time?  | Agreed. Its a complete travesty. Borderline insane. Someone should riot against the man, get naked and start the revolution.
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10-20-2009, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol Tyler Smith wasn't the 08 SEC POY, nor was he close in the voting. | Don't pollute this thread with facts. Not cool.
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10-20-2009, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cotton I really don't have a problem with any of the "slights" you mention. If John Wall is anywhere near as good as advertised, he's a serious candidate for POY. AJ Ogilvy is a solid choice for 1st team.
You say IF: You have a valid point...for all preseason stuff...it's always IF. I don't know where you are getting your list, so I don't know what other choices bother you, but I see good arguments for both of those guys. | .
The list(information) comes from Griffith's GoVolsXtra.com article.
The Omission of Chism is my beef, don't get that one. Ogilvy is second team choice (I believe)...Chism was left out(maybe he was last place for all I know?) . From a team performance stand point, that might actually be a good thing...I'm sure that CBP will use that sometime, somewhere.
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10-20-2009, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by volswin08 .
The Omission of Chism is my beef, don't get that one. Ogilvy is second team choice (I believe)...Chism was left out(maybe he was last place for all I know?) | Both were second team last year. To promote one and not the other isn't that much of a travesty. As a non-biased observer, based on performance, if I had to make a prediction, I would vote the same way.
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Originally Posted by Hardwood_fanatic Agreed. Its a complete travesty. Borderline insane. Someone should riot against the man, get naked and start the revolution.  | Silliness. Revolutions are almost never started by naked people.
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10-20-2009, 10:56 AM
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| TN with 4 sr's starting should win a ton of games this year...I could care less about pre-season rankings. It where you rank come march that I worry about. |
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10-20-2009, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by cotton Both were second team last year. To promote one and not the other isn't that much of a travesty. As a non-biased observer, based on performance, if I had to make a prediction, I would vote the same way.
In the preseason, BTW, everything is "IF."
Silliness. Revolutions are almost never started by naked people. | Speaking of naked...Chism has slapped Ogilvy naked, and hid is clothes from him the past two seasons when they have faced each other. 
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10-20-2009, 11:04 AM
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| You get more respect when people are actually worried about the team around you.
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