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10-13-2009, 04:04 PM
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| the problem with the offense is not the offense itself as much as it is the players in it. No one complained when we had lofton and jsmith knocking down open threes that were created by the flex...with that being said he should recruit guys to play in his offensive and defensive schemes which i dont think he has down that well in my opinion | 
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10-13-2009, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cotton  Any good offense will cause problems for the defense, and the flex is in that category. | Give me a quick, physical defense like the ones Huggs put on the floor at UC or Pitt has lately and I'll choke the life out of the flex. | |
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10-13-2009, 04:11 PM
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| I played basketball for the laziest coach on earth Donald Dodgen and we ran the flex in high school. After he "taught" it to the new players each year he basically slept the rest of the season. | |
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10-13-2009, 04:13 PM
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| funny that i've seen pearl continue to run the flex when a team zones. regardless on the baseline i'd keep my 3, 4, 5 guys down low switching the screens and leave my 1,2 guards up top. its that easy
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10-13-2009, 04:15 PM
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| You can easily run the flex against a zone. | |
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10-13-2009, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JZVOL I played basketball for the laziest coach on earth Donald Dodgen and we ran the flex in high school. After he "taught" it to the new players each year he basically slept the rest of the season. | so that's why we beat you guys all the time?  | |
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10-13-2009, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by utvolpj so that's why we beat you guys all the time? | It for real is. He was/is the worst coach in any sport I ever played for. His idea of coaching was to say try harder or play better.
We did win the district tourney my senior year despite him though and had enough players to always win over 20 games but everyone hated that guy.
Of course all the Bearden guys said Blevins was an ass, but they all played hard. | |
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10-13-2009, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 Give me a quick, physical defense like the ones Huggs put on the floor at UC or Pitt has lately and I'll choke the life out of the flex. | I think the difference with us, Hat, is that we don't usually try to score out of the flex. The flex is just used to burn clock when we aren't fast breaking. We then usually run some sort of set play for someone with about 15 seconds on the shot-clock. Is that the way you see it as well? | |
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10-13-2009, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kiffinator13 I think the difference with us, Hat, is that we don't usually try to score out of the flex. The flex is just used to burn clock when we aren't fast breaking. We then usually run some sort of set play for someone with about 15 seconds on the shot-clock. Is that the way you see it as well? | I don't see much discernable structure in Tennessee's halfcourt offense. | |
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10-13-2009, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 Give me a quick, physical defense like the ones Huggs put on the floor at UC or Pitt has lately and I'll choke the life out of the flex. | What offense didn't those defenses choke the life out of? Put better defenders on the floor than their offensive counterparts and the O is going to struggle to score.
The flex is solid in principle. It isn't necessarily what I would try to run if I were building a college program; it isn't sexy, it inverts guards and posts (or causes you to weaken it if you don't,) it doesn't isolate a mismatch, and turning it over might get you into shot clock trouble too often. It definitely isn't what I would try to run with a bunch of guys who think picks are for teeth and patience are the people waiting for the doctor.
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10-13-2009, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hatvol96 I don't see much discernable structure in Tennessee's halfcourt offense. | On this we certainly agree.
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10-13-2009, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JZVOL You can easily run the flex against a zone. | I guess you can, but it won't work, and it isn't what it is designed to do.
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10-13-2009, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Vol Mania 21 funny that i've seen pearl continue to run the flex when a team zones. regardless on the baseline i'd keep my 3, 4, 5 guys down low switching the screens and leave my 1,2 guards up top. its that easy | This should result in a multitude of dunks by the screener.
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10-13-2009, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cotton I guess you can, but it won't work, and it isn't what it is designed to do. | I have seen a flex used primarily against a match-up not a straight zone. It is pretty effective against it. | |
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