Pearl's 1-2-1-1 Press.

[allvol21]

I've studied quiet a bit on CBP's 1-2-1-1. I feel like it is a great press with the right personnel. You need hard nosed guards that are able to anticipate and get in passing lanes, you also need mobile big men. Especially your 4 man, he is crucial in this press.

I feel like we had that in pearls first few years of overachievers. I just believe that this year there are a few weak spots that we will be vulnerable in trying to press. That is when Brian Williams, Scotty Hopson, and J.P prince are on the floor.

Share some thoughts...

[matrosscbc]

Originally Posted by allvol21

I've studied quiet a bit on CBP's 1-2-1-1. I feel like it is a great press with the right personnel. You need hard nosed guards that are able to anticipate and get in passing lanes, you also need mobile big men. Especially your 4 man, he is crucial in this press.

I feel like we had that in pearls first few years of overachievers. I just believe that this year there are a few weak spots that we will be vulnerable in trying to press. That is when Brian Williams, Scotty Hopson, and J.P prince are on the floor.

Share some thoughts...

It's more of a run and jump press rather than a true zone...it was successful in the past in increasing the game tempo....he might not have the horses for that...not many teams in college press successfully because of the abilities of opponents to throw the long ball and break a trap with the dribble....however some teams...like Pearl's use it for a tempo setter

[allvol21]

Originally Posted by matrosscbc

It's more of a run and jump press rather than a true zone...it was successful in the past in increasing the game tempo....he might not have the horses for that...not many teams in college press successfully because of the abilities of opponents to throw the long ball and break a trap with the dribble....however some teams...like Pearl's use it for a tempo setter

I think times that we have seen it as of late it has been more of a run a and jump. Set up to slow the transition and control tempo as you were talking. But this press that we saw at the beginning of his tenure is a true zone that prides itself on forcing the inbounds to the corner and the initial trap. If those two things don't happen than it breaks down immeadiatle which is what scares me with this team.

[VOLnVEGAS]

Excuse the ignorance...But have we seen this particular kind of press? I know you just said it is not the same zone press as they were running earlier, so is this man to man with traps??

[allvol21]

Originally Posted by VOLnVEGAS

Excuse the ignorance...But have we seen this particular kind of press? I know you just said it is not the same zone press as they were running earlier, so is this man to man with traps??

Yea we saw the 1-2-1-1 every game his first couple of years. It's a zone press. We have also seen the run and jump the other poster was talking about. It's more of a man to man with reads when they see an opportunity to "jump" or trap the ball handler, but pearl used it to slow other teams down more than anything it's a less aggressive and less vulnerable type of full court pressure.

[VOLnVEGAS]

You said that the 4 man in this press is very important..Is it because he has to be so athletic and quick?? In our projected lineup who in this system would be the 4 and 5??

[allvol21]

Originally Posted by VOLnVEGAS

You said that the 4 man in this press is very important..Is it because he has to be so athletic and quick?? In our projected lineup who in this system would be the 4 and 5??

1) the 4 man is important because is shadowing the inbounder to take away view down the floor to prevent the deep pass..so the bigger and more active he is the more affective he is.
2) He also is farthest away from the basket we are defending. So once the press breaks down he has to be able to recover back down the floor...especially if we are transitioning back to a man to man.

Chism will play some 4 and 5. Tyler will play some 4. We have also seen jp play some 4. Obviously Brian Williams plays the 5 and will probably see kenny hall with some minutes at the 4.

[TXVOL07]

Its great if you can transition back to whatever D your going to run afterwards. It also takes a lot out of your guys. Good conditioning will be key,.... as always.

[VOLnVEGAS]

The sounds great and you have obviously done alot of research and thinking on this subject, so do you think this is going to be good for us this year? Can it be as affective as in the first couple of Pearl's seasons??

[allvol21]

I believe it can...but alot of it has to do with the mindset of players. I believe pearl did a great job motivating his players in the first few years...mainly using the " underdog " mentality on the players. With a little success and far more expectations we will see if he can get players to buy in to this scheme and completely sell out possesion after possesion when fatigue sets in.

[Vol Mania 21]

as far as the OP saying they were overachievers, I guess you could say that. that being said i rather have guys who wrked hard, and were smart over guys that can jump out of the gym. here's something i learned when i was in 8th grade playing AAU, right before we played this team from the hood my coach told me to just pumpfake everytime. it worked. it's ridiculous, 99% of the kids who play this streetball will go for pump fakes. worked every time. i like the press, it's good if you can get guys to know their roles

[allvol21]

Originally Posted by Vol Mania 21

as far as the OP saying they were overachievers, I guess you could say that. that being said i rather have guys who wrked hard, and were smart over guys that can jump out of the gym. here's something i learned when i was in 8th grade playing AAU, right before we played this team from the hood my coach told me to just pumpfake everytime. it worked. it's ridiculous, 99% of the kids who play this streetball will go for pump fakes. worked every time. i like the press, it's good if you can get guys to know their roles

I don't really understand what how you are trying to relate this to the topic at hand...with the pumpfakes example...I'm not trying to be a smart a...please elaborate

[Vol Mania 21]

I know i rambled on. Just saying the first few teams that Pearl had were guys who were less talented, but were smart players. I'd rather have smart players, then ridiculous talent

[hatvol96]

Originally Posted by Vol Mania 21

I'd rather have smart players, then ridiculous talent

Yeah, that's why the Ivy League champ always does such damage in the Tournament.

[GAVol]

Originally Posted by hatvol96

Yeah, that's why the Ivy League champ always does such damage in the Tournament.

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