Pearl's 1-2-1-1 Press.

[allvol21]

Originally Posted by colvol

I play basketball for my middle school and we run this press and we are very good at it.Beacuse,we run untill the season starts and we are very much in shape and your 4 man has to be good which are, 4 man is our best player, so if your in good enough shape you can run this all day and be very good at it.Also I have not played a team that could get by this unless somebody blows there role one team found a way to beat it but it was very easy to adjust to so really as some of you said being in shape,knowing your role and hustle is the way to make this work.

Exactly... 4 man is what I have been saying is crucial to this press and many have argued that point.

[kiffinator13]

Originally Posted by allvol21

Exactly... 4 man is what I have been saying is crucial to this press and many have argued that point.

The 4 is crucial. He's just not on the ball in our press. Chism, the 5, is on the ball. Tyler, the 4, plays the rover in the diamond, but you are still right; it is still a crucial position.

[allvol21]

Even if that is true...and I'm not positive that it is. Chism is a moblie big guy actually he is more a PF(4) or I garuntee He would find another tall and athletic replacement.
But I'll ask him this weekend at his coaching clinic.

[VOLnVEGAS]

Originally Posted by allvol21

Even if that is true...and I'm not positive that it is. Chism is a moblie big guy actually he is more a PF(4) or I garuntee He would find another tall and athletic replacement.
But I'll ask him this weekend at his coaching clinic.

Please tell..Coaching clinic?? Lucky vol!

[kiffinator13]

Originally Posted by allvol21

Even if that is true...and I'm not positive that it is. Chism is a moblie big guy actually he is more a PF(4) or I garuntee He would find another tall and athletic replacement.
But I'll ask him this weekend at his coaching clinic.

Well, he even puts Brian Williams on the ball when he is in for Chism as well, man. Do you not recall Brian and Wayne being on the ball all the time? Tyler Smith has not been on the ball one time since he has been at UT. Pearl has always put his 5 man on the ball and his 4 man as the rover since he has been with us. But be sure you do ask him. I would like to hear what he says about it.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by kiffinator13

Well, he even puts Brian Williams on the ball when he is in for Chism as well, man. Do you not recall Brian and Wayne being on the ball all the time? Tyler Smith has not been on the ball one time since he has been at UT. Pearl has always put his 5 man on the ball and his 4 man as the rover since he has been with us. But be sure you do ask him. I would like to hear what he says about it.

that isn't true.

[kiffinator13]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

that isn't true.

If he has been on the ball, I bet you can count on one hand how many times that occurred.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by kiffinator13

If he has been on the ball, I bet you can count on one hand how many times that occurred.

It hasn't been much, but it's often a function of who's closest when it goes in. They get to set it up off FTs and dead balls, but on the rare occasion that we score in the flow of our offense, it's a rotation of the guy closest to the ball.

[kiffinator13]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

It hasn't been much, but it's often a function of who's closest when it goes in. They get to set it up off FTs and dead balls, but on the rare occasion that we score in the flow of our offense, it's a rotation of the guy closest to the ball.

True, in the limited times it might have happened, it could have been when Tyler's man was inbounding the ball. Most of the time when teams set a press breaker, a 5 man will be the inbounder. So, I am assuming that is the reason that our 5 man is almost exclusively on the ball.

[BigPapaVol]

Originally Posted by kiffinator13

True, in the limited times it might have happened, it could have been when Tyler's man was inbounding the ball. Most of the time when teams set a press breaker, a 5 man will be the inbounder. So, I am assuming that is the reason that our 5 man is almost exclusively on the ball.

we use a zone press, so it's not about the inbounder. We are trying to make the entry pass go up and over one of our long guys, regardless of inbounder. A lot of teams have gone away from the 5 man bringing it in because he's often the worst passer on the floor. Most now just use a good passer and good decision maker.

[kiffinator13]

Originally Posted by BigPapaVol

we use a zone press, so it's not about the inbounder. We are trying to make the entry pass go up and over one of our long guys, regardless of inbounder. A lot of teams have gone away from the 5 man bringing it in because he's often the worst passer on the floor. Most now just use a good passer and good decision maker.

I'm pretty sure you missed my point. I'm well aware that the 1-2-1-1 is a zone press, but it makes it much easier to transition to man-to-man when you place your guys in an alignment that matches them to the guy they will be guarding in halfcourt man to man. That would be a possible reason for placing Tyler on his man in the 1-2-1-1 if that has actually happened. I have seen Tyler on the ball underneath the opponents' basket when we have gone into our pressure looks on the halfcourt inbounds. I honestly can't ever remember a time that Tyler was placed on the ball in our press.

[BasketvolsFan]

The fact is without excellent talent, no team will go very far; regardless of the coaching. If you want to be an exceptional team, you must have exceptional talent.

[kiffinator13]

Originally Posted by BasketvolsFan

The fact is without excellent talent, no team will go very far; regardless of the coaching. If you want to be an exceptional team, you must have exceptional talent.

And this post ties into the 1-2-1-1 press how?

[BasketvolsFan]

Your are absolutely correct that we always put the 5 on the inbounds and if we can't trap and get a turn-over, we immediatly fall back into a man-to-man. The point was without exceptional talent, it doesn't matter what we do, we will not be an exceptional team.

[kiffinator13]

Originally Posted by BasketvolsFan

Your are absolutely correct that we always put the 5 on the inbounds and if we can't trap and get a turn-over, we immediatly fall back into a man-to-man. The point was without exceptional talent, it doesn't matter what we do, we will not be an exceptional team.

I see.