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Old 03-21-2009, 09:20 AM   #121 (permalink)
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i can't say i disagree with any of it. in the end, they ended their season the way they had played most all year long. and that's not good enough to make a deep run in the aa's.
It is painfully obvious that the talent was there, but in terms of preparation, defense and overall game planning there wasn't a player on the team that really gave a rat's ass. While I think Pearl does care about the performance of his teams, I don't think there are many players on this team are coachable.

Determining the responsible party for that fact is really what we are left with on the VN.
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You know, I am glad that this 2008 Sports season is over for Tennessee. It's been painful to sit through. The football team was pathetic, the mens bball team took an early exit, and the womens bball team isn't doing well either. Florida beat Tennessee in baseball. I am just READY for 2009-2010 season to arrive. Hopefully, it will be better than the last.
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Old 03-21-2009, 09:37 AM   #123 (permalink)
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Yeah don't look for baseball to save us. They are terrible and I suspect Raliegh's stay in Knoxville is going to be a short one.

And I'm not expecting Kiffin to be a miracle worker in one season, though looking at the schedule we SHOULD at least make a bowl game. The OOC schedule this year is very weak, which actually may be good for this team to recover. I still think we get beat by Florida, Alabama, and Georgia but hopefully we can win the rest.
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Old 03-21-2009, 10:09 AM   #124 (permalink)
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It is painfully obvious that the talent was there, but in terms of preparation, defense and overall game planning there wasn't a player on the team that really gave a rat's ass. While I think Pearl does care about the performance of his teams, I don't think there are many players on this team are coachable.

Determining the responsible party for that fact is really what we are left with on the VN.
I have always said that in college, the coach has even more responsibility than in professional sports because the college coach selects all of his own players. As much as I like Pearl and what he's done for UT, he has not brought in the players that will lead to a highly successful program.

The very first scholarship he gave was to Ryan Childress, a player who contributed nothing to the team this year on the court. We still have yet to find a competent PG to replace CJ Watson. And many of the players that CBP has brought to the program are not responding to whatever coaching is going on.

When you have JP Prince on the perimeter, it is impossible for him to feed the post because his man will always slack off, knowing that JP can't shoot. When you have a PG in Bobby Maze who does not want to take charge, it adds to the problem. Then you have your best post man shooting 9 3's with no consequences. Pearl needs to correct the players he has or bring in players that can perform or we will not get past where we are right now.
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Old 03-21-2009, 10:42 AM   #125 (permalink)
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It is painfully obvious that the talent was there, but in terms of preparation, defense and overall game planning there wasn't a player on the team that really gave a rat's ass. While I think Pearl does care about the performance of his teams, I don't think there are many players on this team are coachable.

Determining the responsible party for that fact is really what we are left with on the VN.
the players were coachable enough that had they been told not to shoot another 3 all day, they could have figured it out. Somehow, there was a coach there who never said that the remainder of our shots SHALL be in the paint.
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The players are coachable enough that they still do a good job defending the inbounds play. So either they suddenly don't care about the other aspects of the game to listen to Pearl, or Pearl doesn't coach anything else as well. Take your pick.
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You know, I am glad that this 2008 Sports season is over for Tennessee. It's been painful to sit through. The football team was pathetic, the mens bball team took an early exit, and the womens bball team isn't doing well either. Florida beat Tennessee in baseball. I am just READY for 2009-2010 season to arrive. Hopefully, it will be better than the last.

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There is when your coach is Todd Raliegh.
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Old 03-21-2009, 02:27 PM   #129 (permalink)
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It is painfully obvious that the talent was there, but in terms of preparation, defense and overall game planning there wasn't a player on the team that really gave a rat's ass. While I think Pearl does care about the performance of his teams, I don't think there are many players on this team are coachable.

Determining the responsible party for that fact is really what we are left with on the VN.
in this respect, this is where i agree with Doyel's asssessment. we've seen BP coach teams to something more than what they were expected to. this year, i think it has a lot more to do with the players than the coach. jmo.

and again, i readilyt admit that there are more than a few superior coaches than BP out there. but the stuff i've seen all year from the likes of Prince, hopson, chism et al is indicative of players that just didn't "get it". i think they just epxected to roll out there and win the conf. no questions asked. when they got challenged early on in the season, i don't think they reacted to it very well, and it stuck with them the rest of the season when the going got tough.

even wtih pearls' 1st three teams, esp last year's, this team just made plays when it had to. it got the three to drop or it got the TO on the i/b pass or what ever....something happened to put those teams on run to where they could close games.

this team lacks that. which is why after reading GD's column, i can't disagree with it at all.

it'll be interesting to see how the returning players respond next year, and it will be interesting to see how BP responds as well. I think he trusted them a bit too much in the end, will he learn from that or take a wait and see approach heading in to next season?
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I agree with most of the article but the part about the all-americans doesn't seem to apply to Duke, North Carolina, and other programs that get the blue chips each year.
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I agree with most of the article but the part about the all-americans doesn't seem to apply to Duke, North Carolina, and other programs that get the blue chips each year.
yea but their coaches know how to motivate those players. Or at least see player who are motivated and not. Just my take on what he's writing.
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I agree with most of the article but the part about the all-americans doesn't seem to apply to Duke, North Carolina, and other programs that get the blue chips each year.
Those teams are filled with all-americans. But when you get your first Mcdonald's All-American in a while, he's going to be the big shot on campus and not be as motivated as he should be. Just a theory.
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