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Old 12-21-2008, 02:26 PM   #16 (permalink)
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We're pressing entirely differently this season for several reasons
Well, it seems to me that at the beginning of the season, we were trying to press as we were last year, and teams were simply beating it or throwing over the top of it for a runout. (and I'm talking UT-Martin and MTSU here.) So now we're in more of a 3/4 court pressure or one man token backcourt pressure. I'm still not sure why, exactly, with the length and athleticism we have, that the full-court press can't be even MORE effective than it once was, unless it's a general basketball IQ issue.
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:32 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Bruce would use the upcoming break to look at some film of John Chaney's teams at Temple and Jim Boeheim's championship team at Syracuse. I honestly believe the best option for this team is to become a halfcourt zone defensive team. Sure, throw the press as a changeup, but don't expect this team to live off of turnovers. I just can't see this team becoming an effective man to man defensive team, either. Being a staunch member of the Church of Bob Knight, I feel a bit queasy calling for the use of zones. However, you have to play to your personnel occasionally.
I would agree with that.
Bruce now has some pieces to work with. He needs to be more multiple on defense. The top programs, that have the top athletes find a way to be multiple and unpredictable. Their aggressive approach is the system that he teaches, but I think he has to figure out how to change up things, but not stray away from their style.
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Old 12-21-2008, 07:44 PM   #18 (permalink)
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This team is depressing. It's amazing that CBP has recruited guys that do not fit his style of play. For everyone questioning CLK, look no further than the BasketVols example of talented players not able to execute the coaches' bread and butter. CLK turning down 4 star recruits because they don't fit his style of play is exactly what CBP didn't do. So on paper we have a good team that is not a good fit for what we've come to expect from a CBP team.
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Old 12-21-2008, 07:52 PM   #19 (permalink)
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This team is depressing. It's amazing that CBP has recruited guys that do not fit his style of play. For everyone questioning CLK, look no further than the BasketVols example of talented players not able to execute the coaches' bread and butter. CLK turning down 4 star recruits because they don't fit his style of play is exactly what CBP didn't do. So on paper we have a good team that is not a good fit for what we've come to expect from a CBP team.
Maybe, but the CLK part is yet to be proven.
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Old 12-21-2008, 08:22 PM   #20 (permalink)
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We're pressing entirely differently this season for several reasons
If our motive is to wear down the opponent, why not simply guard the man bringing up the ball full-court throughout the game? Do we need a full court press to do that?
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If our motive is to wear down the opponent, why not simply guard the man bringing up the ball full-court throughout the game? Do we need a full court press to do that?
Pearls previous teams used the press to turn the other team over, and get the tempo of the game up. Those teams pressed a whole lot better than this team does, but was no where near as deep.
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:57 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Certainly, we are more athletic, but definitely not as quick as we have been. To me, if we could learn to play an aggressive zone we could be pretty difficult for teams to handle. I would much rather get beat from the perimeter than see teams consistently take it to the hole on us, ala Belmont's point guard yesterday, who had a career day.
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Old 12-21-2008, 10:14 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Certainly, we are more athletic, but definitely not as quick as we have been. To me, if we could learn to play an aggressive zone we could be pretty difficult for teams to handle. I would much rather get beat from the perimeter than see teams consistently take it to the hole on us, ala Belmont's point guard yesterday, who had a career day.
This team is a lot different, Pearl is still trying to figure out what he has, and what works. That is part of coaching with the elite. I think we will see more of an identity by the time the SEC roles around, and we will know what we have.
Good or Bad.
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Old 12-21-2008, 10:56 PM   #24 (permalink)
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This team is depressing. It's amazing that CBP has recruited guys that do not fit his style of play. For everyone questioning CLK, look no further than the BasketVols example of talented players not able to execute the coaches' bread and butter. CLK turning down 4 star recruits because they don't fit his style of play is exactly what CBP didn't do. So on paper we have a good team that is not a good fit for what we've come to expect from a CBP team.
You are going to eat these words. Maybe not in the short term, but this will come back up in next year or maybe even later this year.
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Old 12-21-2008, 11:37 PM   #25 (permalink)
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We will be ok, but I agree with the defense... I would love to see a 1-3-1 with this team, but I know I am dreaming with that one.... We just aren't fast enough on the perimeter to handle a quick guard.
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:41 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I wish Bruce would take the break to look at a better offensive game plan.
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:36 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Anyone else think that Tony Harris would thrive under CBP?

For that matter, all of Jerry Green's teams would thrive under CBP....
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:43 AM   #28 (permalink)
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You are going to eat these words. Maybe not in the short term, but this will come back up in next year or maybe even later this year.
I hope you are right.
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Old 12-22-2008, 05:04 PM   #29 (permalink)
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This team is depressing. It's amazing that CBP has recruited guys that do not fit his style of play.
That doesnt make any sesne. Why would a coach recruit players that dont fit his system?
They are called Freshman give them time.

I would argue that Chris Lofton and Dane Bradshaw didnt fit his system but he adjusted. He has said from day one he likes the lenghty atheletic player and that is pretty much what he has recruited.
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Old 12-23-2008, 05:05 PM   #30 (permalink)
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While we're in a discussion of our press defense, I've got a question I've been wanting to ask.

A lot of times after a score our team will set up what looks like a press, then immediately let one guy get the ball and back off into a half court d, not even making an attempt to stop that first pass. Why?
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