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Old 01-05-2018, 12:52 PM   #16
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3 years versus about 3 months. That's how.
And we know how Tyndall was able to get these type recruits in 3 months, given he is currently with the biggest show-cause ever.
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This kid has a first round draft grade. Is draft eligible. No way he plays in college.
He'd go in the 20's-2nd round if he went to the draft this year, and potentially a lottery pick in the 2019 draft.
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3 years versus about 3 months. That's how.
Gotta love how Ziti is forever changing the criteria lol
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This kid has a first round draft grade. Is draft eligible. No way he plays in college.
Iím sure someone who follows the nba more closely can confirm but I seem to remember there being a huge difference in money and guarantees between lottery and non-lottery draft picks.
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And we know how Tyndall was able to get these type recruits in 3 months, given he is currently with the biggest show-cause ever.
Funny how that was also conveniently omitted
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Iím sure someone who follows the nba more closely can confirm but I seem to remember there being a huge difference in money and guarantees between lottery and non-lottery draft picks.
1st pick 5.8 mil
5th pick 3.8 mil
10th pick 2.5 mil
15th pick 1.9mil
20th pick 1.5 mil
25th pick 1.25 mil
30th pick gets 1.1 mil

So a pretty big difference when you jump up into the top 10. The 2nd year takes a pretty big jump for the top 10 too.

Hypothetically I'll put him as the 20th pick in the 2018 class since that's where one mock has him and then put him as the 8th pick in the 2019 mock where another mock has him.

2018
20th pick
1st year 1,549,500
2nd year 1,839,200
3rd year 2,149,000
Total: $5,537,700

2019
8th pick
1st year 2,917,600
2nd year 3,463,100
3rd year 4,046,500
Total:$10,427,200

So he would potentially make $3,340,000 more in a 3 year period by staying for 1 year and getting picked 8th instead of 20th.

3 year contract
1st pick 20,926,100
30th pick 4,153,200

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Previously a Louisville commit.

I'm sure he's been discussed somewhere in this forum but didn't see a thread on him.

Thoughts on our chances? Who's the last five star visitor we had?



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As for your OP freak...

The last 8 or 9 predictions on 247 have all been Tennessee, included in those are Jerry Meyer and Andrew Slater, two of the national guys who typically have pretty good intel on these kids. Fwiw Slater is the guy who was predicting Petrusev to Gonzaga while he was still on an official visit to Tennessee, so heís pretty solid usually.

Tennessee is selling him on coming in to a program on the rise and that they are returning 12/13 players, that he is the missing piece to take them to the next level. Obviously the better UT is this year the more attractive that becomes to him, being ranked for over a month has helped that and a win Saturday with him in attendance would obviously be ideal.

My only concern is we are bringing him in early...if he has his mind made up that heís going to take all his OVís then his recruitment could drag on another 1-2 months after he visits Knoxville. If that were to happen I would feel less and less confident heís a Vol with each visit he opts to take after his OV to Tennessee.
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"Rick Barnes is a good coach and heís known for putting players in the league especially guards," Simons said.

This really sticks out to me.
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1st pick 5.8 mil
5th pick 3.8 mil
10th pick 2.5 mil
15th pick 1.9mil
20th pick 1.5 mil
25th pick 1.25 mil
30th pick gets 1.1 mil

So a pretty big difference when you jump up into the top 10. The 2nd year takes a pretty big jump for the top 10 too.

Hypothetically I'll put him as the 20th pick in the 2018 class since that's where one mock has him and then put him as the 8th pick in the 2019 mock where another mock has him.

2018
20th pick
1st year 1,549,500
2nd year 1,839,200
3rd year 2,149,000
Total: $5,537,700

2019
8th pick
1st year 2,917,600
2nd year 3,463,100
3rd year 4,046,500
Total:$10,427,200

So he would potentially make $3,340,000 more in a 3 year period by staying for 1 year and getting picked 8th instead of 20th.

3 year contract
1st pick 20,926,100
30th pick 4,153,200
Good info Stoked...

From what Iíve read heís looking for a lottery guarantee, if he doesnít get that heís going to college.
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Gotta love how Ziti is forever changing the criteria lol
You asked a question and I answered it.

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Rick Barnes hasn't done a good enough job recruiting to Tennessee.

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"Rick Barnes is a good coach and heís known for putting players in the league especially guards," Simons said.

This really sticks out to me.
You'd think that would have been used to recruit other highly ranked guards to Tennessee in the past 3 years.
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