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Old 02-15-2017, 10:39 AM   #16
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I am a White, Male, Christian, Conservative, born in Middle Tennessee, 21 years in the Marine Corps, 2 combat tours and work as a police Officer. I have never placed my hand over my heart. Am I am non American?
Do you salute instead?
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Actually if these four guys are in fact making a political statement, I have to give them credit for doing it correctly. I'd be more open to hearing their reasoning than giving a forum to an ass-hat like Kraepernick or that other bunch of idiots in the NFL that probably don't even know what they're protesting while are making spectacles of themselves. If our four have issues, they are being very respectful of everybody else's feelings by simply having their hands clasped behind their backs instead.

It's kind of funny that earlier in the year, probably when the color guards were from local high schools, they used to exit along the south sideline. Now they turn right and march right through the middle of the line of UT players and coaches. And the guys in line that have to step aside to let them through... guess which ones usually do that.
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I place my hand over my heart when saying the Pledge of Allegiance. I remove my cap and stand up straight during NA. I often bow my head and pray for my country.
From reading OP, it does not appear that any of our players are disrespectful in any way.
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Do you salute instead?
No, I usually stand with my hands to my side. I use that time to pray for the family of one of my best friends who was killed in Iraq
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I am a White, Male, Christian, Conservative, born in Middle Tennessee, 21 years in the Marine Corps, 2 combat tours and work as a police Officer. I have never placed my hand over my heart. Am I am non American?
Pretty sure he was just taking a swipe at Obama.
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All this really comes down to respecting one another. If, and that is a big IF, these guys are doing this as a sign of solidarity for some issue, they are doing it in a very respectful way, not shoving it down someone's throat. Just as when I place my hand over my heart, and there are times I have just bowed and prayed for our servicemen instead, I am no shoving that in anyone's face. There are right ways and wrongs ways to voice ones feelings on matters. Got a great bunch of guys on this team it seems. Look forward to seeing them grow into a great team. ITS GREAT TO BE A TENNESSEE VOL. GO BIG ORANGE.
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As a Operation Desert Storm veteran I am sick and tired of the BS in this country with those that refuse to acknowledge those that protect our freedom to do the things we enjoy with our lifestyles. Many have lost their lives protecting this country and these youngsters obvious disrespect is ridicuous. Hell, they dont even know what they are protesting.

This BS is highly influenced by colleges with their mostly left wing anti-american liberal professors. Its time to hold these institutions accountable. In addition our previous Presdent Obama had no respect for the military and many other things in my opinion.

It is not freedom of speech to burn the flag and not give respect to our country.
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Pretty sure he was just taking a swipe at Obama.
You might not agree or like the president, but to say any president is un-American is dumb. That job is tens of thousands times more stressful than any of us know. You have to love your country to put yourself under that much stress, judgment, and responsibilities. Not a shot at you it's a shot at Op
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Good lord move this to the politics forum already.
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You might not agree or like the president, but to say any president is un-American is dumb. That job is tens of thousands times more stressful than any of us know. You have to love your country to put yourself under that much stress, judgment, and responsibilities. Not a shot at you it's a shot at Op
To be clear OP didn't say that, the guy who responded to the pic did (unless that's who you mean by OP, if so then ignore what I said).
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Pretty sure he was just taking a swipe at Obama.
Yeah, I know. Just pointing out how silly it is. There is plenty to get on Obama about without making stuff up.
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As a Operation Desert Storm veteran I am sick and tired of the BS in this country with those that refuse to acknowledge those that protect our freedom to do the things we enjoy with our lifestyles. Many have lost their lives protecting this country and these youngsters obvious disrespect is ridicuous. Hell, they dont even know what they are protesting.

This BS is highly influenced by colleges with their mostly left wing anti-american liberal professors. Its time to hold these institutions accountable. In addition our previous Presdent Obama had no respect for the military and many other things in my opinion.

It is not freedom of speech to burn the flag and not give respect to our country.

As a veteran, you should understand freedom of speech or expression better than most. Defend that freedom is not just the defense of that which we agree with but all free speech.
You take it as a personal disrespect of the military because that is your closest association. Most of the protest as this (our guys have not proven to be a protest) are more directed at Police Officers than military and that is widely known.
People that do things like this the right way are to be commended even if we disagree.
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You might not agree or like the president, but to say any president is un-American is dumb. That job is tens of thousands times more stressful than any of us know. You have to love your country to put yourself under that much stress, judgment, and responsibilities. Not a shot at you it's a shot at Op
Its a lazy argument for those that are opposed to him, but don't have the ability or time to criticize his policies.
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As a veteran, you should understand freedom of speech or expression better than most. Defend that freedom is not just the defense of that which we agree with but all free speech.
You take it as a personal disrespect of the military because that is your closest association. Most of the protest as this (our guys have not proven to be a protest) are more directed at Police Officers than military and that is widely known.
People that do things like this the right way are to be commended even if we disagree.
Exactly. That was a strange rant.

Also, I find this idea of some "forced", expected patriotism has way more in common with places like China and North Korea than a free country.
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As a veteran, you should understand freedom of speech or expression better than most. Defend that freedom is not just the defense of that which we agree with but all free speech.
You take it as a personal disrespect of the military because that is your closest association. Most of the protest as this (our guys have not proven to be a protest) are more directed at Police Officers than military and that is widely known.
People that do things like this the right way are to be commended even if we disagree.

I disagree. This is the attitude that is taking our country down. No respect for anthing anymore unless its a special interest. Our techers and professors teaching its ok to disrepect authority. (police, etc). We are on a downward spiral.
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