Will Fulkerson be able to get the medical "redshirt"?

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Thunder Good-Oil

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He's played in 10 games. The question is how many games are in the "season".

How to Get a Medical Redshirt
Medical Hardship Requirements

To be eligible for a medical hardship waiver, a student-athlete has to meet the following criteria:

The student-athlete must suffer the injury during one of their four seasons of college competition or during the senior year of high school.

The injury must be incapacitating. That means it must be a season-ending injury.
The injury must occur prior to the start of the second half of the season.

The student-athlete must not have competed in more than 30% of the season or three contests, whichever is greater.
 
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31 x 30% = 9.3 games
32 x 30% = 9.6 games (rounded up to 10?)
33 x 30% = 9.9 games
34 x 30% = 10.2 games
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There are 31 regular season games plus at least one SECT game (32?).
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
31 x 30% = 9.3 games
32 x 30% = 9.6 games (rounded up to 10?)
33 x 30% = 9.9 games
34 x 30% = 10.2 games
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There are 31 regular season games plus at least one SECT game (32?).
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So, it will come down to how many games we play in total this season? Hope we can make the NIT then if that's the case to hopefully give us at least a couple of extra games.
 
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According to the link below, post season games count and ANY fractions are rounded up in the allowable games played. So 30% of the 31 games this season equals 9.3 which is rounded up to 10 games. The way I'm interpreting this is that as long as Fulkerson isn't completely rehabilitated before the end of the season, then he'll get the waiver and be a freshman in 2017-18.

Medical Redshirt Rules for Basketball | Healthy Living - azcentral.com

Games Played
To gain a medical redshirt, the athlete cannot compete in more than 30 percent of her team’s games within a season, not counting contests officially designated as scrimmages or exhibition games. When such computations are made, fractions are rounded up. For example, if a team plays 27 games, the exact 30 percent mark is 8.1. For the purposes of medical redshirt eligibility, therefore, the player may compete in nine games and still be eligible for a medical redshirt.
 
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Here's is a similar case that would seem to support him getting approved for a medical redshirt: What Is a Medical Redshirt in College Basketball?

The Syracuse player played in 10 of 32 games, the 32 being the total of regular season plus Big East tournament games. They played 35 total counting NIT that year so it's not clear from that article whether NIT games would count. Regardless, 31 games in the regular season appears to be sufficient with the rounding up.
 
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twoffo said:
Here's is a similar case that would seem to support him getting approved for a medical redshirt: What Is a Medical Redshirt in College Basketball?

The Syracuse player played in 10 of 32 games, the 32 being the total of regular season plus Big East tournament games. They played 35 total counting NIT that year so it's not clear from that article whether NIT games would count. Regardless, 31 games in the regular season appears to be sufficient with the rounding up.
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It's probably just the author being sloppy, but it says "less than 30%" in that link:

In men's college basketball, a student who participates in less than 30 percent of his team's games may apply for medical redshirt status.
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Everywhere else I've seen "not more than 30%".
 
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The other thing that can't happen is that he's fully rehabilitated with games remaining. Weird though... if he sits on the bench but doesn't get in a game, has he participated in the game?

If his recovery is 6 weeks and another two weeks to get into playing shape, he'd be ready before the end of the season. And if he plays (or participates or is available?) for any game after the 15th game... he's not eligible for the waiver. Surely they can't expect a guy that had his arm bent in the wrong direction and was operated on to be fully recovered... but it's the NCAA and they SUCK!!!
 
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Pretty simple...if he doesn't play another game for UT this season he will get a medical redshirt, if he plays another game then he won't.

Personally I expect him back this season.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
The other thing that can't happen is that he's fully rehabilitated with games remaining. Weird though... if he sits on the bench but doesn't get in a game, has he participated in the game?

If his recovery is 6 weeks and another two weeks to get into playing shape, he'd be ready before the end of the season. And if he plays (or participates or is available?) for any game after the 15th game... he's not eligible for the waiver. Surely they can't expect a guy that had his arm bent in the wrong direction and was operated on to be fully recovered... but it's the NCAA and they SUCK!!!
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No. He has to step foot on court with a second run off clock.
 
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I think there might be a problem with the requirement that the injury must be incapacitating and season ending. Just sitting out all remaining games won't be enough. TN must also prove to the NCAA that the injury was so severe that he could not return. They have to submit medical records and the NCAA would have people that would know if TN/Fulkerson is sandbagging.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I think there might be a problem with the requirement that the injury must be incapacitating and season ending. Just sitting out all remaining games won't be enough. TN must also prove to the NCAA that the injury was so severe that he could not return. They have to submit medical records and the NCAA would have people that would know if TN/Fulkerson is sandbagging.
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You're looking too far into this, it's relatively easy for guys to get medical redshirts as long as they play the set percentage of games or less. Hell, Woolrodge got a medical redshirt for what was basically a sprained ankle iirc. Furthermore, if there's actually a fracture and a surgery was needed which is gonna sideline him for the year why are you acting as if Tennessee will have trouble supplying supporting documentation to the NCAA?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You're looking too far into this, it's relatively easy for guys to get medical redshirts as long as they play the set percentage of games or less. Hell, Woolrodge got a medical redshirt for what was basically a sprained ankle iirc. Furthermore, if there's actually a fracture and a surgery was needed which is gonna sideline him for the year why are you acting as if Tennessee will have trouble supplying supporting documentation to the NCAA?
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Because it was suggested that the injury will cause him to be out for 6 weeks.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I think there might be a problem with the requirement that the injury must be incapacitating and season ending. Just sitting out all remaining games won't be enough. TN must also prove to the NCAA that the injury was so severe that he could not return. They have to submit medical records and the NCAA would have people that would know if TN/Fulkerson is sandbagging.
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They're not sending medical investigative teams around to make sure that players couldn't possibly have played in another game in a given season. If he doesn't play from here on out, he'll get the medical redshirt. They're not particularly stingy about it, assuming that there was, in fact, an injury. And there obviously was.
 
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nirwin said:
They're not sending medical investigative teams around to make sure that players couldn't possibly have played in another game in a given season. If he doesn't play from here on out, he'll get the medical redshirt. They're not particularly stingy about it, assuming that there was, in fact, an injury. And there obviously was.
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They won't send out a team to investigate. The NCAA requires that medical records be submitted as part of the appeal for the waiver.

Don't forget, the NCAA blew up TN's basketball program because Pearl lied about serving hot dogs to a HS Junior.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
They won't send out a team to investigate. The NCAA requires that medical records be submitted as part of the appeal for the waiver.

Don't forget, the NCAA blew up TN's basketball program because Pearl lied about serving hot dogs to a HS Junior.
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If Fulk is out for 6 weeks and comes back and plays, no redshirt.

If Fulk had surgery and is now done for the year, medical redshirt.

Pretty simple.
 
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