Rick Barnes: Year One

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It's the end of the basketball season for Tennessee and to say it was pretty would be lying. Tennessee had some good wins, but some awful losses. Injuries to Hubbs and Punter really hurt this team (People forget Hubbs was averaging 16 a game before his knee injury) and you wonder if Barnes could have gotten a real center or if Lamonte Turner was eligible what could have happened. He wasn't done any favors. Sadly however, there were some issues. So let's take a look and see how he did.

1. Did Tennessee meet expectations?

If you ask me, I think Tennessee having a winning record in the regular season should be the bare minimum and that's what I expected. I don't believe 16-15 was asking too much, especially considering how bad the bottom of the SEC was. Barnes went 13-18. And while Tennessee won some games they shouldn't have, they also lost some games that they had absolutely no business losing. They blew significant leads against TCU, Texas A&M, and Alabama, along with blowing winnable games against Auburn and Missouri. While the upset win against Vanderbilt was lovely, they lost their final four games in the regular season by double digits, and dropped six of their final seven.

Looking at how weak the rest of the SEC was outside the top four teams, I definitely think a winning season could have been achieved. The injury to Punter set them back, but remember Tennessee lost on the final possession to George Washington and Georgia Tech in the out of conference portion of the season. Those were very winnable games. I'm not denying that it wouldn't be easy but I still think a winning season could have happened.

2. Rick Barnes' coaching

It was mixed. The gameplans worked great. It's obvious the coaching staff knows how to prepare. The problem was the in game coaching. I didn't like it. His defensive schemes were easy to figure out after halftime with almost no adjustments. The rotations never made sense to me. Whether it's true or not, the offense seemed to struggle more in the second half than the first.

Now, some of it was good. I thought starting Schofield at the five was our best lineup all year and took some ingenuity. I liked the offensive movement of the team. Barnes is starting to embrace the three ball (we will get to that later). It's true Barnes didn't have a lot to work with. I thought UT had SEC guards/wings, but definitely did not have an SEC big man on the team. It was going to take a lot of creative schemes to get consistency. Some times it worked, other times it didn't.

3. Offense

It was a typical Rick Barnes offense. Good numbers thanks to offensive rebounding and low turnovers with appalling shooting numbers. Barnes' team protected the ball extremely well, ranking 31st in turnover percentage. And the offensive rebounding was top 100 in the country. But my God, the shooting numbers.

Tennessee shot 32.7% from three, ranking 262nd in the country. They had a 48% eFG, which ranked 251st in the country. They had a 51.5 assist percentage, which ranked 186th in the country. They got 20% of their points from the free throw line, which ranked 180th in the country. It's a good thing this team protected the ball or it would have been really ugly.

Now, it's not all numbers. This team moved without the ball as much as any Tennessee team I can remember. Other than Pearl's first two teams, this team cut and got layups from cuts as effectively as any Tennessee teams in the past. I thought that despite the low three point percentage that they consistently got pretty solid looks from the perimeter. I thought he used Baulkman and Mostella perfectly. You wonder what a true 6'9 low post threat could do in this offense.

I don't like the simplification of the offense with Punter. Barnes went to the well too often running a Punter iso or a Punter PNR. I hate how he used Robert Hubbs III on offense. I thought that was really poor use of his skills. Moore should have been used as a PNR option in both the ball handler and roll man more. Overall, the numbers are pretty decent though. Tennessee finished 82nd in offensive efficiency. That's pretty solid. However the efficiency dropped five points in conference play. That cannot happen.

4. The defense

Barnes' team usually won because of how good his teams are defensively. He had the athletes and size at Texas to have good defensive teams. Tennessee finished 107th in the country in opponents eFG% and protected the three ball well. Teams only shot 34.2% against them. That's about average. They did a good job with all the young guys not fouling and putting teams on the line. What killed Tennessee was rebounding. They finished 331st in the country in defensive rebounding. They allowed teams to recover 35% of their missed shots. You won't win games like that.

I thought the game plans were fine. They showed some different looks in guarding the pick and rolls. They didn't give up easy cuts. They struggled against teams with low posts threats and Barnes seemed really reluctant to send double teams. I don't personally agree with that strategy but I understand it.

One thing I hated was the zone concepts. I don't mind playing zone but they never made sense to me. Tennessee never truly bought into one zone. They switched them up. When they went to zone it seemed it was just to try something different instead of an actual good reason. And it also hurt the rebounding efforts.

Overall, this team needs big men to really help on defense. Barnes isn't a zone coach, and a legit rim protector would help go away from the zone. However, here's a concerning number. Tennessee in conference play gave up 109.6 points per 100 possessions. That was 13th in the SEC. It seemed teams started to figure out the defense once there was some film.

5. Why did Rick Barnes lie to us?

You all should remember. Rick Barnes told us Tennessee was going to push the pace, shoot three's like crazy, and average 80 something points a game and have an exciting 94 foot offense. If you watched Barnes' teams and saw the stats, you knew this was (to put it bluntly) bull****. Barnes had never done that and while I don't want to assume I know people, most 61 year old coaches that have been around for 25 years don't change their ways.

And he didn't. Barnes promised a bunch of three's and Tennessee only took 36.2% of their shots from 3, which was average in the country (152nd). Barnes promised a fast paced offense. They averaged 69.4 possessions, which is semi deflated because of the good offensive rebounding but their average time of possession was 17 seconds which was 115th in the country. That's not exactly a fast pace.

I understand Tennessee didn't have a lot of horses but Barnes routinely played 9-10 guys a game. With the lack of size on this team you have to think it would make so much sense to push the pace. And in the beginning of the year he did. But he really went away from it once conference play started, as evidenced by taking more time per possession (a .6 decrease).

I don't understand why you would say you are going to change your ways and not do it. I said I would believe it when I see it. He didn't do it. And assuming he doesn't bring a big time big man or grad transfer, he's going to still have a very small team. He needs to embrace a fast pace, shooting team.

5. How does the 2015 Recruiting Class look?

Honestly, I like what I saw. The good news it that Phillips and Schofield (Tyndall recruits ironically) look like SEC players, especially Schofield. He's the perfect 4 man in today's game of basketball. He can stretch the floor, he has some ball handling skills and I like how he moves the ball and his defensive effort. He just needs to rebound better. Phillips is a combo guard, but I like him as a third guard off the bench and he didn't flinch despite inconsistent minutes or when he was called to be the starter when Punter went down. You also have to love a freshman that shoots 37% from three and 41% in conference play from three.

Kyle Alexander should have redshirted, but because of the lack of size he had to play and did as well as expected. He's 6'10 with a long wingspan and has some skill around the basket. I loved the effort he gave on defense. That's 75% of the battle. He has a future and right now is the starting center going into the offseason. Lamonte Turner will be the best player out of this group and he didn't even play. Tennessee would have been a better team with him. He's a good player and he will most likely be the starting point guard next year. If I start going on about Ray Kasongo, I'd have to start a new thread. It's obvious that Rick Barnes has a problem with him. I would have given him more minutes. That's all I will say.

6. What grade would you give Rick Barnes?

There's some good. They protected the basketball. They rebounded the ball offensively. Defensively they did a pretty good job. I like the opponents shooting numbers. With better big men and better rebounding Tennessee could have had a really good season defensively.

I thought the game plans were great. I loved beating Kentucky, Vandy, and Florida. You think Tennessee getting a win against each would result in a good season but this team was way too inconsistent. Injuries and the lack of Lamonte Turner really limited this team.

But I watched a lot of SEC basketball. While most people will probably disagree, I saw a winning regular season. Also, this isn't the 1990's anymore. The Tennessee athletic department should NEVER be okay with a 13-18 regular season in basketball and an overall 15-19 season. To me, despite some disadvantages that Barnes, should not be acceptable. The two wins in the SEC tournament are going to buy him some good will heading into the offseason but I don't believe Vol fans should be happy.

I'm not saying Tennessee should fire him by any means. I'm not even saying this hiring is a dud by any stretch (despite my initial feelings towards the hire). But he needs a winning season or else he should be on the hot seat for 2016-2017. I don't believe 15-19 should be acceptable at the University of Tennessee.

Final Grade: D+/C-
 
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Good write up. Agree with almost everything you said. Final grade is fair
 
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Post the link that proves Barnes "lied to us". If he said we "want" to push the ball and will probably shoot a lot of threes, that's not a lie. That's tipping off the fans what they want to do... but as circumstances change and he learns more about what he has to work with any coach would be a fool to not adjust. I'd like to see the link where CRB promises to deliver those things.
C+/B-
 
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Post the link that proves Barnes "lied to us". If he said we "want" to push the ball and will probably shoot a lot of threes, that's not a lie. That's tipping off the fans what they want to do... but as circumstances change and he learns more about what he has to work with any coach would be a fool to not adjust. I'd like to see the link where CRB promises to deliver those things.
C+/B-

Barnes' Up-Tempo Style Suits Vols - University of Tennessee Official Athletic Site
 
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On his coaching: I'd give him a C-
On his recruiting: I'd give him a D-

Overall it wasn't a fantastic hire but it was a safe hire for the time being. Give him a few more years to recruit better players for his system and stabilize the program. If we don't see improvement, then Barnes needs to go.
 
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It would have been a little different record if Hubbs didn't go out in December. He wasn't even close to the same player until the very end of the year. If you remember he was a pretty damn good offensive player heading into that surgery.

I think Barnes wanted to run an uptempo offense, but I believe Punter cramping out of the games early in the year kind of put a hold on that. That and the lack of an actual PG to handle the ball and make decisions. In the SECt Armani was pushing it a little more and was actually making passes up the court in transition, something Punter didn't do.
 
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Good write up. Though I think I'd lean more towards a C, C-
 
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On his coaching: I'd give him a C-
On his recruiting: I'd give him a D-

Overall it wasn't a fantastic hire but it was a safe hire for the time being. Give him a few more years to recruit better players for his system and stabilize the program. If we don't see improvement, then Barnes needs to go.

a D- for recruiting? Phillips/Schofield/Alexander/Turner all look like they're going to have pretty solid careers here if they put in the work.

Bone/Williams/Fulk/Parker/Johnson aren't here yet, but there seems to be some potentially exciting pieces in there. An inside scorer, a white guy, a wing with a ton of length, a freak athlete, and a true PG.
 
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Good write up. Though I think I'd more towards a C, C-

I really struggled because I understand that Barnes didn't have a lot to work with but having the worst season in nineteen years at Tennessee just really sticks in my craw.
 
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I'm gonna go with C to C-. Once I got to see this team in person, it changed my opinion some. Yes, we had some bad losses (Auburn, TCU, Mizzou, and choking against A & M and Bama), but we had some good wins (Ky, LSU, So Car, Fla, Vandy). Hell, even Ky lost at Auburn which should be inexcusable with their talent.

My main beef was the in-game adjustments and the defense like you said. If we improve that some, we might've ended with a .500 or better record. Make no mistake, not having Turner hurt us. That was a big blow. As was Hubbs getting hurt early in the season and late in the season and Punter too. This roster couldn't take an injury of any kind and we had it happen to 2 of our better players when we were lacking size and talent. That's a good reason why we ended up 15-19.

Edit: We also lost McGhee who I think would've helped us. I think he could've turned into an Armani Moore type player if he had stayed. High energy guy that doesn't have a lot of experience at this level so he's still learning the game and how to play with that energy. I hate losing any player that we've invested time and energy in recruiting.
 
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C or C- Worst team in 19 years? Dunno...definitely worst talent since the skeleton crew that followed Allan Houston's graduation. Another year with a full offseason should have more illumination on what Barnes has left.
 
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It's the end of the basketball season for Tennessee and to say it was pretty would be lying. Tennessee had some good wins, but some awful losses. Injuries to Hubbs and Punter really hurt this team (People forget Hubbs was averaging 16 a game before his knee injury) and you wonder if Barnes could have gotten a real center or if Lamonte Turner was eligible what could have happened. He wasn't done any favors. Sadly however, there were some issues. So let's take a look and see how he did.

1. Did Tennessee meet expectations?

If you ask me, I think Tennessee having a winning record in the regular season should be the bare minimum and that's what I expected. I don't believe 16-15 was asking too much, especially considering how bad the bottom of the SEC was. Barnes went 13-18. And while Tennessee won some games they shouldn't have, they also lost some games that they had absolutely no business losing. They blew significant leads against TCU, Texas A&M, and Alabama, along with blowing winnable games against Auburn and Missouri. While the upset win against Vanderbilt was lovely, they lost their final four games in the regular season by double digits, and dropped six of their final seven.

Looking at how weak the rest of the SEC was outside the top four teams, I definitely think a winning season could have been achieved. The injury to Punter set them back, but remember Tennessee lost on the final possession to George Washington and Georgia Tech in the out of conference portion of the season. Those were very winnable games. I'm not denying that it wouldn't be easy but I still think a winning season could have happened.

2. Rick Barnes' coaching

It was mixed. The gameplans worked great. It's obvious the coaching staff knows how to prepare. The problem was the in game coaching. I didn't like it. His defensive schemes were easy to figure out after halftime with almost no adjustments. The rotations never made sense to me. Whether it's true or not, the offense seemed to struggle more in the second half than the first.

Now, some of it was good. I thought starting Schofield at the five was our best lineup all year and took some ingenuity. I liked the offensive movement of the team. Barnes is starting to embrace the three ball (we will get to that later). It's true Barnes didn't have a lot to work with. I thought UT had SEC guards/wings, but definitely did not have an SEC big man on the team. It was going to take a lot of creative schemes to get consistency. Some times it worked, other times it didn't.

3. Offense

It was a typical Rick Barnes offense. Good numbers thanks to offensive rebounding and low turnovers with appalling shooting numbers. Barnes' team protected the ball extremely well, ranking 31st in turnover percentage. And the offensive rebounding was top 100 in the country. But my God, the shooting numbers.

Tennessee shot 32.7% from three, ranking 262nd in the country. They had a 48% eFG, which ranked 251st in the country. They had a 51.5 assist percentage, which ranked 186th in the country. They got 20% of their points from the free throw line, which ranked 180th in the country. It's a good thing this team protected the ball or it would have been really ugly.

Now, it's not all numbers. This team moved without the ball as much as any Tennessee team I can remember. Other than Pearl's first two teams, this team cut and got layups from cuts as effectively as any Tennessee teams in the past. I thought that despite the low three point percentage that they consistently got pretty solid looks from the perimeter. I thought he used Baulkman and Mostella perfectly. You wonder what a true 6'9 low post threat could do in this offense.

I don't like the simplification of the offense with Punter. Barnes went to the well too often running a Punter iso or a Punter PNR. I hate how he used Robert Hubbs III on offense. I thought that was really poor use of his skills. Moore should have been used as a PNR option in both the ball handler and roll man more. Overall, the numbers are pretty decent though. Tennessee finished 82nd in offensive efficiency. That's pretty solid. However the efficiency dropped five points in conference play. That cannot happen.

4. The defense

Barnes' team usually won because of how good his teams are defensively. He had the athletes and size at Texas to have good defensive teams. Tennessee finished 107th in the country in opponents eFG% and protected the three ball well. Teams only shot 34.2% against them. That's about average. They did a good job with all the young guys not fouling and putting teams on the line. What killed Tennessee was rebounding. They finished 331st in the country in defensive rebounding. They allowed teams to recover 35% of their missed shots. You won't win games like that.

I thought the game plans were fine. They showed some different looks in guarding the pick and rolls. They didn't give up easy cuts. They struggled against teams with low posts threats and Barnes seemed really reluctant to send double teams. I don't personally agree with that strategy but I understand it.

One thing I hated was the zone concepts. I don't mind playing zone but they never made sense to me. Tennessee never truly bought into one zone. They switched them up. When they went to zone it seemed it was just to try something different instead of an actual good reason. And it also hurt the rebounding efforts.

Overall, this team needs big men to really help on defense. Barnes isn't a zone coach, and a legit rim protector would help go away from the zone. However, here's a concerning number. Tennessee in conference play gave up 109.6 points per 100 possessions. That was 13th in the SEC. It seemed teams started to figure out the defense once there was some film.

5. Why did Rick Barnes lie to us?

You all should remember. Rick Barnes told us Tennessee was going to push the pace, shoot three's like crazy, and average 80 something points a game and have an exciting 94 foot offense. If you watched Barnes' teams and saw the stats, you knew this was (to put it bluntly) bull****. Barnes had never done that and while I don't want to assume I know people, most 61 year old coaches that have been around for 25 years don't change their ways.

And he didn't. Barnes promised a bunch of three's and Tennessee only took 36.2% of their shots from 3, which was average in the country (152nd). Barnes promised a fast paced offense. They averaged 69.4 possessions, which is semi deflated because of the good offensive rebounding but their average time of possession was 17 seconds which was 115th in the country. That's not exactly a fast pace.

I understand Tennessee didn't have a lot of horses but Barnes routinely played 9-10 guys a game. With the lack of size on this team you have to think it would make so much sense to push the pace. And in the beginning of the year he did. But he really went away from it once conference play started, as evidenced by taking more time per possession (a .6 decrease).

I don't understand why you would say you are going to change your ways and not do it. I said I would believe it when I see it. He didn't do it. And assuming he doesn't bring a big time big man or grad transfer, he's going to still have a very small team. He needs to embrace a fast pace, shooting team.

5. How does the 2015 Recruiting Class look?

Honestly, I like what I saw. The good news it that Phillips and Schofield (Tyndall recruits ironically) look like SEC players, especially Schofield. He's the perfect 4 man in today's game of basketball. He can stretch the floor, he has some ball handling skills and I like how he moves the ball and his defensive effort. He just needs to rebound better. Phillips is a combo guard, but I like him as a third guard off the bench and he didn't flinch despite inconsistent minutes or when he was called to be the starter when Punter went down. You also have to love a freshman that shoots 37% from three and 41% in conference play from three.

Kyle Alexander should have redshirted, but because of the lack of size he had to play and did as well as expected. He's 6'10 with a long wingspan and has some skill around the basket. I loved the effort he gave on defense. That's 75% of the battle. He has a future and right now is the starting center going into the offseason. Lamonte Turner will be the best player out of this group and he didn't even play. Tennessee would have been a better team with him. He's a good player and he will most likely be the starting point guard next year. If I start going on about Ray Kasongo, I'd have to start a new thread. It's obvious that Rick Barnes has a problem with him. I would have given him more minutes. That's all I will say.

6. What grade would you give Rick Barnes?

There's some good. They protected the basketball. They rebounded the ball offensively. Defensively they did a pretty good job. I like the opponents shooting numbers. With better big men and better rebounding Tennessee could have had a really good season defensively.

I thought the game plans were great. I loved beating Kentucky, Vandy, and Florida. You think Tennessee getting a win against each would result in a good season but this team was way too inconsistent. Injuries and the lack of Lamonte Turner really limited this team.

But I watched a lot of SEC basketball. While most people will probably disagree, I saw a winning regular season. Also, this isn't the 1990's anymore. The Tennessee athletic department should NEVER be okay with a 13-18 regular season in basketball and an overall 15-19 season. To me, despite some disadvantages that Barnes, should not be acceptable. The two wins in the SEC tournament are going to buy him some good will heading into the offseason but I don't believe Vol fans should be happy.

I'm not saying Tennessee should fire him by any means. I'm not even saying this hiring is a dud by any stretch (despite my initial feelings towards the hire). But he needs a winning season or else he should be on the hot seat for 2016-2017. I don't believe 15-19 should be acceptable at the University of Tennessee.

Final Grade: D+/C-

That final grade sounds like a catbone grade. With what Barnes had to work with and his best player going down, I give him a B-.
 
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It's the end of the basketball season for Tennessee and to say it was pretty would be lying. Tennessee had some good wins, but some awful losses. Injuries to Hubbs and Punter really hurt this team (People forget Hubbs was averaging 16 a game before his knee injury) and you wonder if Barnes could have gotten a real center or if Lamonte Turner was eligible what could have happened. He wasn't done any favors. Sadly however, there were some issues. So let's take a look and see how he did.

1. Did Tennessee meet expectations?

If you ask me, I think Tennessee having a winning record in the regular season should be the bare minimum and that's what I expected. I don't believe 16-15 was asking too much, especially considering how bad the bottom of the SEC was. Barnes went 13-18. And while Tennessee won some games they shouldn't have, they also lost some games that they had absolutely no business losing. They blew significant leads against TCU, Texas A&M, and Alabama, along with blowing winnable games against Auburn and Missouri. While the upset win against Vanderbilt was lovely, they lost their final four games in the regular season by double digits, and dropped six of their final seven.

Looking at how weak the rest of the SEC was outside the top four teams, I definitely think a winning season could have been achieved. The injury to Punter set them back, but remember Tennessee lost on the final possession to George Washington and Georgia Tech in the out of conference portion of the season. Those were very winnable games. I'm not denying that it wouldn't be easy but I still think a winning season could have happened.

2. Rick Barnes' coaching

It was mixed. The gameplans worked great. It's obvious the coaching staff knows how to prepare. The problem was the in game coaching. I didn't like it. His defensive schemes were easy to figure out after halftime with almost no adjustments. The rotations never made sense to me. Whether it's true or not, the offense seemed to struggle more in the second half than the first.

Now, some of it was good. I thought starting Schofield at the five was our best lineup all year and took some ingenuity. I liked the offensive movement of the team. Barnes is starting to embrace the three ball (we will get to that later). It's true Barnes didn't have a lot to work with. I thought UT had SEC guards/wings, but definitely did not have an SEC big man on the team. It was going to take a lot of creative schemes to get consistency. Some times it worked, other times it didn't.

3. Offense

It was a typical Rick Barnes offense. Good numbers thanks to offensive rebounding and low turnovers with appalling shooting numbers. Barnes' team protected the ball extremely well, ranking 31st in turnover percentage. And the offensive rebounding was top 100 in the country. But my God, the shooting numbers.

Tennessee shot 32.7% from three, ranking 262nd in the country. They had a 48% eFG, which ranked 251st in the country. They had a 51.5 assist percentage, which ranked 186th in the country. They got 20% of their points from the free throw line, which ranked 180th in the country. It's a good thing this team protected the ball or it would have been really ugly.

Now, it's not all numbers. This team moved without the ball as much as any Tennessee team I can remember. Other than Pearl's first two teams, this team cut and got layups from cuts as effectively as any Tennessee teams in the past. I thought that despite the low three point percentage that they consistently got pretty solid looks from the perimeter. I thought he used Baulkman and Mostella perfectly. You wonder what a true 6'9 low post threat could do in this offense.

I don't like the simplification of the offense with Punter. Barnes went to the well too often running a Punter iso or a Punter PNR. I hate how he used Robert Hubbs III on offense. I thought that was really poor use of his skills. Moore should have been used as a PNR option in both the ball handler and roll man more. Overall, the numbers are pretty decent though. Tennessee finished 82nd in offensive efficiency. That's pretty solid. However the efficiency dropped five points in conference play. That cannot happen.

4. The defense

Barnes' team usually won because of how good his teams are defensively. He had the athletes and size at Texas to have good defensive teams. Tennessee finished 107th in the country in opponents eFG% and protected the three ball well. Teams only shot 34.2% against them. That's about average. They did a good job with all the young guys not fouling and putting teams on the line. What killed Tennessee was rebounding. They finished 331st in the country in defensive rebounding. They allowed teams to recover 35% of their missed shots. You won't win games like that.

I thought the game plans were fine. They showed some different looks in guarding the pick and rolls. They didn't give up easy cuts. They struggled against teams with low posts threats and Barnes seemed really reluctant to send double teams. I don't personally agree with that strategy but I understand it.

One thing I hated was the zone concepts. I don't mind playing zone but they never made sense to me. Tennessee never truly bought into one zone. They switched them up. When they went to zone it seemed it was just to try something different instead of an actual good reason. And it also hurt the rebounding efforts.

Overall, this team needs big men to really help on defense. Barnes isn't a zone coach, and a legit rim protector would help go away from the zone. However, here's a concerning number. Tennessee in conference play gave up 109.6 points per 100 possessions. That was 13th in the SEC. It seemed teams started to figure out the defense once there was some film.

5. Why did Rick Barnes lie to us?

You all should remember. Rick Barnes told us Tennessee was going to push the pace, shoot three's like crazy, and average 80 something points a game and have an exciting 94 foot offense. If you watched Barnes' teams and saw the stats, you knew this was (to put it bluntly) bull****. Barnes had never done that and while I don't want to assume I know people, most 61 year old coaches that have been around for 25 years don't change their ways.

And he didn't. Barnes promised a bunch of three's and Tennessee only took 36.2% of their shots from 3, which was average in the country (152nd). Barnes promised a fast paced offense. They averaged 69.4 possessions, which is semi deflated because of the good offensive rebounding but their average time of possession was 17 seconds which was 115th in the country. That's not exactly a fast pace.

I understand Tennessee didn't have a lot of horses but Barnes routinely played 9-10 guys a game. With the lack of size on this team you have to think it would make so much sense to push the pace. And in the beginning of the year he did. But he really went away from it once conference play started, as evidenced by taking more time per possession (a .6 decrease).

I don't understand why you would say you are going to change your ways and not do it. I said I would believe it when I see it. He didn't do it. And assuming he doesn't bring a big time big man or grad transfer, he's going to still have a very small team. He needs to embrace a fast pace, shooting team.

5. How does the 2015 Recruiting Class look?

Honestly, I like what I saw. The good news it that Phillips and Schofield (Tyndall recruits ironically) look like SEC players, especially Schofield. He's the perfect 4 man in today's game of basketball. He can stretch the floor, he has some ball handling skills and I like how he moves the ball and his defensive effort. He just needs to rebound better. Phillips is a combo guard, but I like him as a third guard off the bench and he didn't flinch despite inconsistent minutes or when he was called to be the starter when Punter went down. You also have to love a freshman that shoots 37% from three and 41% in conference play from three.

Kyle Alexander should have redshirted, but because of the lack of size he had to play and did as well as expected. He's 6'10 with a long wingspan and has some skill around the basket. I loved the effort he gave on defense. That's 75% of the battle. He has a future and right now is the starting center going into the offseason. Lamonte Turner will be the best player out of this group and he didn't even play. Tennessee would have been a better team with him. He's a good player and he will most likely be the starting point guard next year. If I start going on about Ray Kasongo, I'd have to start a new thread. It's obvious that Rick Barnes has a problem with him. I would have given him more minutes. That's all I will say.

6. What grade would you give Rick Barnes?

There's some good. They protected the basketball. They rebounded the ball offensively. Defensively they did a pretty good job. I like the opponents shooting numbers. With better big men and better rebounding Tennessee could have had a really good season defensively.

I thought the game plans were great. I loved beating Kentucky, Vandy, and Florida. You think Tennessee getting a win against each would result in a good season but this team was way too inconsistent. Injuries and the lack of Lamonte Turner really limited this team.

But I watched a lot of SEC basketball. While most people will probably disagree, I saw a winning regular season. Also, this isn't the 1990's anymore. The Tennessee athletic department should NEVER be okay with a 13-18 regular season in basketball and an overall 15-19 season. To me, despite some disadvantages that Barnes, should not be acceptable. The two wins in the SEC tournament are going to buy him some good will heading into the offseason but I don't believe Vol fans should be happy.

I'm not saying Tennessee should fire him by any means. I'm not even saying this hiring is a dud by any stretch (despite my initial feelings towards the hire). But he needs a winning season or else he should be on the hot seat for 2016-2017. I don't believe 15-19 should be acceptable at the University of Tennessee.

Final Grade: D+/C-

I am not sure what to say about this other than you must not understand basketball much or have zero idea the current state of Tennessee basketball. This is a 3 year project at least and making assumptions based on this roster is a waste of time. Next year will be another building block as 77% (10 of 13) of our team will be Freshman or Sophomores. So I think we need to see where we are year 3 - If you have any specific examples of coaches taking a roster this bad and making them a above .500 team I would love to be corrected. But this is a B+ for me.
 
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I'd give him a B-/C+ simply because our roster was pretty horrid. We had to use Derek Reese and Armani as a center at times, and Reese is only 6'8'' which doesn't bode too well against 6'11'' or over 7 feet. We lacked so much size. Even our actual "bigs" like Kasongo and Kyle look like skinny rails. I think as the season progressed, so did the players. Kevin Punter took off like Josh Richardson last year, Armani picked up a lot of steam, Hubbs started to come on late in the season, and I was really impressed with Schofield, considering he's a freshman. There were a lot of factors that plagued our season (injuries, freshmen, etc) and I think RB, overall, did a fine job. You can tell the players respect him and we were very competitive in most of our games. I was very surprised we were able to beat Florida, Kentucky, and Vanderbilt this year given our talent level and attrition. I think Barnes is going to be a solid coach for us and he'll win a lot more games in the next few years. Got some pretty talented guys coming in this year.
 
#19
#19
Let's be honest other than Punter Tennessee doesn't have one player who could sniff the NBA. And I doubt Punter could. We have a few better than average players. Some average ones. And way to many below average. And you blame Barnes and give him a D. Sounds like another let's bash Barnes thread.
 
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#21
#21
D


3-4 games below what would have been an average year

Bruin, what frustrates me about you is that you aren't dumb, yet you make erroneous comments regulary.

Do you just like to argue?

Sometimes I think there is no way you actually believe what you're saying, but you say it anyways to shake things up.

Or maybe I'm fooled and you are, indeed, an idiot.
 
#22
#22
a D- for recruiting? Phillips/Schofield/Alexander/Turner all look like they're going to have pretty solid careers here if they put in the work.

Bone/Williams/Fulk/Parker/Johnson aren't here yet, but there seems to be some potentially exciting pieces in there. An inside scorer, a white guy, a wing with a ton of length, a freak athlete, and a true PG.
Two of those top players are Tyndall recruits.
 
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#23
Goodness, if you expected a winning record I don't know what to say. A lot of dumb comments from some people in this thread.

I really don't see how anyone could realistically ask for more than what coach Barnes got out of this team this year.
 
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Labeling anything in there as a lie is quite a reach. But coupled with a D+ grade, I guess that that interpretation fits the agenda,

Barnes repeatedly said we were going to push the tempo and take a bunch of three's. If you don't remember that, it's not my fault you don't follow the team that much.

Tennessee had it's worse season in 19 years. I understand the situation, but Tyndall was in just as bad as a spot and was able to finish at .500 and I didn't even think he did a great job. Tennessee is too good of a program to be having 15-19 seasons.
 

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