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what other AD's in the SEC do?

In the SEC recently, most schools have hired some well-known and successful Head Coaches. It seems the SEC are becoming a league with a lot fighting power among the names.

Auburn - Bruce Pearl, South Carolina - Frank Martin, Kentucky - Calipari, Florida - Donovan, Arkansas - Mike Anderson, etc.....

Let's say a school like Georgia, Ole Miss, etc... fires their coach who was never a huge success.

What if one of these schools get a "splash" hire like Ben Howland?

You think Hart would look into a "stronger name" just because of that? Or do you think he's not concern at all what the other schools are planning on doing?
 
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I don't have a ton of faith in UT to do what's needed to get a proven coach. If I remember right our best hire was baseball between AD's lol so not sure what that says. We lucked up with Butch because I'm sure no one saw him being able to recruit as well as he has but it was Harts hire so I give him credit. Basketball will be interesting to watch an see how he handles it.
 
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LocoVol said:
I don't have a ton of faith in UT to do what's needed to get a proven coach. If I remember right our best hire was baseball between AD's lol so not sure what that says. We lucked up with Butch because I'm sure no one saw him being able to recruit as well as he has but it was Harts hire so I give him credit. Basketball will be interesting to watch an see how he handles it.
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No surprise UT has a hard time hiring coaches with the sorry fans in this forum right now.
 
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Are we saying Hart may consider letting go a coach who will have more wins than losses in the NCAAT by the time the year is out?

Do people not understand that there would be no coach willing to work for Tennessee if we make decisions like this? Be better than this people.
 
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I remain convinced the people that say crap like this never watched a minute of UT basketball before they heard that Pearls team was fun to watch. There's just no explanation for this creepy fascination with Pearl.
 
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Heebs said:
Are we saying Hart may consider letting go a coach who will have more wins than losses in the NCAAT by the time the year is out?

Do people not understand that there would be no coach willing to work for Tennessee if we make decisions like this? Be better than this people.
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He has another year on his contract. No coach in his right mind would come here if we cut him loose (even before he made a run for the NCAA tournament). Its just bad business. He's done a fine job and if it weren't for Bruce Pearl we wouldn't have entitled fans who thought we belonged in the NCAA tournament. We don't. We have to earn it just like the other 68 teams.
 
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Dougie_D said:
what other AD's in the SEC do?

In the SEC recently, most schools have hired some well-known and successful Head Coaches. It seems the SEC are becoming a league with a lot fighting power among the names.

Auburn - Bruce Pearl, South Carolina - Frank Martin, Kentucky - Calipari, Florida - Donovan, Arkansas - Mike Anderson, etc.....

Let's say a school like Georgia, Ole Miss, etc... fires their coach who was never a huge success.

What if one of these schools get a "splash" hire like Ben Howland?

You think Hart would look into a "stronger name" just because of that? Or do you think he's not concern at all what the other schools are planning on doing?
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I think Hart has enough confidence in his ability to make hiring decisions that he isn't going to essentially allow the rest of the conference ADs think for him, if that makes sense.

He will do what he feels is best for the programs he is in charge of, and will hire who he sees fit. If that person is a "big-name" person, so be it. Personally, I have no instance of us breaking the bank to hire a big name in football or basketball. We only seem willing to pay a coach once he has proven his worth on the field/court for us first, and not for his accomplishments elsewhere. That has prevented us from making the big splash hire as of yet.
 
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On top of everything else it's bad business for Tennessee to continue this cycle of paying 2 coaches at the same time.
 
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LT21 said:
No surprise UT has a hard time hiring coaches with the sorry fans in this forum right now.
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Are you 12? Or just one of those internet bad asses that love to call people names? Grow up. That's all you've done most of your posts on here. News flash, nobody cares if some guy that just showed up here questions their fan hood just because you don't agree with them.

What in my post is not correct? Hart didn't hire baseball. Go read after the hire for football, hind sight looks good but at the time everyone was not to sold on his handling of it even tho hind sight now looks ok. UT doesn't spend money for a top coach. And how he handles the Conzo contract, extension or not, Conzo leaves or stays and if he has to hire a new coach will be interesting to see how hart handles it.

We have a hard time getting a coach to come because we have a clown in cheek, Hammy that handled contracts as bad as you can do it and we pay cheap.
 
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LocoVol said:
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Are you 12? Or just one of those internet bad asses that love to call people names? Grow up. That's all you've done most of your posts on here. News flash, nobody cares if some guy that just showed up here questions their fan hood just because you don't agree with them.

What in my post is not correct? Hart didn't hire baseball. Go read after the hire for football, hind sight looks good but at the time everyone was not to sold on his handling of it even tho hind sight now looks ok. UT doesn't spend money for a top coach. And how he handles the Conzo contract, extension or not, Conzo leaves or stays and if he has to hire a new coach will be interesting to see how hart handles it.

We have a hard time getting a coach to come because we have a clown in cheek, Hammy that handled contracts as bad as you can do it and we pay cheap.
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I didn't disagree with you. I said I didn't have any faith in UT hiring a better coach than Cuonzo if they decide to get rid of him. All I did was point out that the fans were the reason. I didn't call you a sorry fan. Im disappointed with a lot of other opinions in this forum, not yours.

I guess you can get mad at me if makes you feel better, but FWIW I'm not 12.
 
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Heebs said:
On top of everything else it's bad business for Tennessee to continue this cycle of paying 2 coaches at the same time.
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That's a fact, I do think Hart will do a better job with that. I think or previous ad would have extended Conzo last year. I wonder what he will do as far as contract this off season. I think he has enough confidence in himself that if he wants to wait to see how next year is going before he extends it wouldn't surprise me. Neither would a short extension soon. The other aspect is does he have someone he wants and is he waiting to see if Conzo moves on his own.
 
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LT21 said:
I didn't disagree with you. I said I didn't have any faith in UT hiring a better coach than Cuonzo if they decide to get rid of him. All I did was point out that the fans were the reason. I didn't call you a sorry fan. Im disappointed with a lot of other opinions in this forum, not yours.
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Thanks, sorry i misunderstood then. :hi:
 
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LocoVol said:
That's a fact, I do think Hart will do a better job with that. I think or previous ad would have extended Conzo last year. I wonder what he will do as far as contract this off season. I think he has enough confidence in himself that if he wants to wait to see how next year is going before he extends it wouldn't surprise me. Neither would a short extension soon. The other aspect is does he have someone he wants and is he waiting to see if Conzo moves on his own.
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I think Cuonzo will leave without some reassurance. He will be a hot commodity and will be more welcome somewhere without entitled fans wishing for the previous coach to be hired.

I don't think we should extend him more than a year on top of his 4 year contract, but I think a raise is in order. We were the 3rd and last SEC team to make the NCAA tournament and he is the 11th highest paid coach in the SEC.
 
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Heebs said:
Are we saying Hart may consider letting go a coach who will have more wins than losses in the NCAAT by the time the year is out?

Do people not understand that there would be no coach willing to work for Tennessee if we make decisions like this? Be better than this people.
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Wes Rucker and Bill King were saying that CCM should jet after the season, even if the move is lateral, because he doesnt fit at UT. I'm sure the thought has crossed CCMs mind often.
 
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LT21 said:
I think Cuonzo will leave without some reassurance. He will be a hot commodity and will be more welcome somewhere without entitled fans wishing for the previous coach to be hired.

I don't think we should extend him more than a year on top of his 4 year contract, but I think a raise is in order. We were the 3rd and last SEC team to make the NCAA tournament and he is the 11th highest paid coach in the SEC.
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You almost have to extend him two years minimum if you are going to extend him. One year only provides token reassurance for him and recruits, as his current contract expires after next season anyway. It doesn't scream "commitment" from the university.

Now you could argue that he doesn't deserve a two-year extension based on his current body of work, but if you are going to extend him at all, it's best to at least give the impression that it is because you have faith in him to succeed. A two-year extension does that. A one-year extension does not.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
Wes Rucker and Bill King were saying that CCM should jet after the season, even if the move is lateral, because he doesnt fit at UT. I'm sure the thought has crossed CCMs mind often.
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Now that he has some program defining wins..."he doesn't fit"? I signed the petition and still think the world of Bruce, but this is ridiculous...sometimes all it takes is that ONE win that gets the ball rolling...stupid to kick that ball into the woods :crazy:
 
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Heebs said:
I remain convinced the people that say crap like this never watched a minute of UT basketball before they heard that Pearls team was fun to watch. There's just no explanation for this creepy fascination with Pearl.
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How about the same creepy fascination with Lane Kiffin. We have so e real nut jobs.
 
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I was as disappointed with the play of this team at times throughout the season as anyone and knew they were capable of doing better. Was it the coaching, the team chemistry, lack of effort, or just over rated talent. It took Maymon a while to start playing like he did before his injury,and Martin didn't fit in early on which threw a freshman point guard into the mix.
Toward the end of conference play, they started playing as a team and looked much better. Don't expect any change in coaching with the success the team has had in the last 6-7 games.
 
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Heebs said:
Are we saying Hart may consider letting go a coach who will have more wins than losses in the NCAAT by the time the year is out?

Do people not understand that there would be no coach willing to work for Tennessee if we make decisions like this? Be better than this people.
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It would be different if Hart hired Martin and did something like that. It really depends how Hart looks at Martin as an individual and as a coach representing TN. Hart has seem to fire a lot of people since he's been here.
 
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butchna said:
Now that he has some program defining wins..."he doesn't fit"? I signed the petition and still think the world of Bruce, but this is ridiculous...sometimes all it takes is that ONE win that gets the ball rolling...stupid to kick that ball into the woods :crazy:
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Your point is valid. Winning solves everything in sports, but they were saying it in the context that CCM probably doesnt want to stay at UT, given he hasnt been a good fit.
 
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Dougie_D said:
what other AD's in the SEC do?

In the SEC recently, most schools have hired some well-known and successful Head Coaches. It seems the SEC are becoming a league with a lot fighting power among the names.

Auburn - Bruce Pearl, South Carolina - Frank Martin, Kentucky - Calipari, Florida - Donovan, Arkansas - Mike Anderson, etc.....

Let's say a school like Georgia, Ole Miss, etc... fires their coach who was never a huge success.

What if one of these schools get a "splash" hire like Ben Howland?

You think Hart would look into a "stronger name" just because of that? Or do you think he's not concern at all what the other schools are planning on doing?
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It's hard to believe after TWO wins in the NCAA that you idiots are still talking about a coaching change.

You obviously have no clue about anything!! You probably vote for the same old socialist every time so you can get something free.

You probably come from the MTV crowd. No clue about life, business, government, sports PERIOD!!!

Have you ever mowed anyone's yard, yours? your parents? My point have you ever had to do anything in your life?

And the 2nd post below your's from LOCO, His name fits is brain.
 
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LT21 said:
Agreed. Im glad Hart sticks with his commitments unlike a lot of Vol fans.
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Good gracious you sound like a whiny beatch. People were pissed we were underperforming. Stop being an emotional baby over fans not being happy when the team is/was poorly coached. Your posts are 10x worse than those that discuss what happens on the court, which I guess you were oblivious to.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
Your point is valid. Winning solves everything in sports, but they were saying it in the context that CCM probably doesnt want to stay at UT, given he hasnt been a good fit.
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I understand the context...the reasoning is bull...is this something that has been discussed in print or the airwaves?...if so the talking heads need to throw in some substance.
 
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