Year One in Review

[tvolsfan]

Given how those players looked under him, I think that's ridiculous.

[volbeast33]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

Given how those players looked under him, I think that's ridiculous.

thats not the way sports works...players dont stay exactly the same from yr to yr.....they all showed potential last yr in limited roles.....look at pearls first team.....the same could have been said about some of the players he inherited.

[tvolsfan]

The team Pearl inherited was much better than the one he left behind.

Of course those players improved under Pearl. Their previous coach was Buzz Peterson.

[volbeast33]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

The team Pearl inherited was much better than the one he left behind.

Of course those players improved under Pearl. Their previous coach was Buzz Peterson.

They are thought of that way not but at the time they were predicted to be pretty bad.

[tvolsfan]

It doesn't change the fact that the team Pearl inherited is better than the one Martin inherited.

[volbeast33]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

It doesn't change the fact that the team Pearl inherited is better than the one Martin inherited.

Pearls first team had lost its top two scorers from a 14-17 team. His only recruit was Ryan Childress....they were picked to finish fifth out of six SEC East teams.

His team finished 22-8 made the tournament and finished in the top twenty. probably a little better talent but he also finished better....Most think Next yrs team will make the tournament so the talent level must not have been too bad.

[JokermanVol]

Originally Posted by volbeast33

Pearls first team had lost its top two scorers from a 14-17 team. His only recruit was Ryan Childress....they were picked to finish fifth out of six SEC East teams.

His team finished 22-8 made the tournament and finished in the top twenty. probably a little better talent but he also finished better....Most think Next yrs team will make the tournament so the talent level must not have been too bad.

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[tvolsfan]

Originally Posted by volbeast33

Pearls first team had lost its top two scorers from a 14-17 team. His only recruit was Ryan Childress....they were picked to finish fifth out of six SEC East teams.

Tennessee was picked to finish 11th of 12 SEC teams last year, and they finished second.

His team finished 22-8 made the tournament and finished in the top twenty. probably a little better talent but he also finished better....Most think Next yrs team will make the tournament so the talent level must not have been too bad.

It's a lot better talent. The best point guard Pearl ever had was the one he inherited. Most think the team will make the tournament because they greatly exceeded expectations this past year.

[johnnybravo]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

Martin's team exceeded expectations while Dooley has spent most of his time embarrassing himself. That's the big difference.

Did Martin's team exceed expectations? I'm not so sure. Yes, they were picked to finish 11th in the SEC at the beginning of the season. But after the very first week in college basketball, I heard from multiple commentators and opposing coaches that last years team was an NCAA tourny team. So, after we actually seen the talent on the floor and how good Golden, Maymon were and how decent the rest of the team was, how hard the played defense, then really did this team exceed the expectations? I think they exceeded the 11th place finish that they were expecting, but not so sure about exceeding the expectations what the team was capable of. Not knocking CCM, he gets a pass his first year. But the only way for him to be successful is to be able to recruit. Time will tell on how well he will succeed at UT

[volbeast33]

Originally Posted by tvolsfan

Tennessee was picked to finish 11th of 12 SEC teams last year, and they finished second.

They did finish second, Pearls first team was picked to finish the equivalent of Martins and went to the tournament and was ranked at the end of the yr.


It's a lot better talent. The best point guard Pearl ever had was the one he inherited. Most think the team will make the tournament because they greatly exceeded expectations this past year.

Yes CJ was the best PG Pearl had but he was no where near the player he is today. Pearl's first team's strengths was the guard play while the inside game was very weak.

Martin's team was really strong inside and besides Trae Golden weak on the perimeter.

I think martin did a good job but not carry around on your shoulders good like alot of people are acting and to say Pearl would have failed miserably with this team is absolute nonsense considering Pearl's history of success.

[Chris4Vols22]

Originally Posted by johnnybravo

Did Martin's team exceed expectations? I'm not so sure. Yes, they were picked to finish 11th in the SEC at the beginning of the season. But after the very first week in college basketball, I heard from multiple commentators and opposing coaches that last years team was an NCAA tourny team. So, after we actually seen the talent on the floor and how good Golden, Maymon were and how decent the rest of the team was, how hard the played defense, then really did this team exceed the expectations? I think they exceeded the 11th place finish that they were expecting, but not so sure about exceeding the expectations what the team was capable of. Not knocking CCM, he gets a pass his first year. But the only way for him to be successful is to be able to recruit. Time will tell on how well he will succeed at UT

Even though it was on the optimistic side, most reasonable people thought we'd finish in the middle of the pack. So by that standard, I'd say we exceeded expectations. However, after realizing our potential after we played a few games, yes we choked a few times including the NIT. We certainly could have done better, but all in all, we were overachievers IMO.

[Chris4Vols22]

And you are absolutely right about recruiting. You know I love Martin, but we need some commits before we get too exited.