Year One in Review

[tvolsfan]

So we have people downplaying the job Martin did to make Dooley look less incompetent. Awesome.

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by volbeast33

Martin was handed a five star stud in the middle of the season....Dooley lost his two best players in the middle of the season...That said I like both coaches....This is the first yr we will know what we really have in Dooley and in two seasons we will know more about coach Martin.

Handed?

[UTCVol]

Martin came in, gained the full trust of Pearl's holdovers and had success with them. Dooley regressed his second year and only now is it looking like he may be able to have a decent level of success here. I have much more confidence in CCM than CDD.

[bleedingTNorange]

My opinion is right now it looks good, but there's definitely more to see. He no doubt exceeded expectations and led this team to a much better year than most anyone expected. However, it was one year, and there are ALOT of coaches who have been one year wonders.

I like where the program seems to be headed, but as I said before anointing him a great hire and saying we're a national contender I need a bit of a bigger sample size.

At this point I say it's a good hire, and that I feel good about where the program is headed and who's hands it's in. This is a big year, a top 20 class, make the NCAA and win a game, and the hire looks even better. There are still definite questions IMO, that's all, but that's what makes this upcoming season so exciting.

[zjcvols]

Martin came in after our most successful basketball coach since Ray Mears with none of the players that fit his style and was able to get them to buy into what he was selling in eight months, while Dooley couldn't do it in 22 months.

End of discussion.

[zansdad]

Love how this thread went from "how did Martin do?" to "compare Dooley and Martin."

[governmentmule]

why is the football coach in this conversation ? i think Martin has done a good job,now if he can recruit good,the future will be bright ,UT could have found a great coach in Martin ,which i do believe

[volbeast33]

Originally Posted by zjcvols

Martin came in after our most successful basketball coach since Ray Mears with none of the players that fit his style and was able to get them to buy into what he was selling in eight months, while Dooley couldn't do it in 22 months.

End of discussion.

Can't be end of discussion when we didn't make the tournament. This season should be great.....recruiting is really the only concern I have about Martin.....I hope players start committing soon.

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by zansdad

Love how this thread went from "how did Martin do?" to "compare Dooley and Martin."

This, seems it always ends up at that, why?

Should we throw Serrano into the convo too?

[zansdad]

Originally Posted by bleedingTNorange

This, seems it always ends up at that, why?

Should we throw Serrano into the convo too?

I don't understand it either. I read the football and recruiting boards but I try very hard to not let my interest in one overflow to the other. I think Martin did a wonderful job last year once all things are taken into consideration. My feelings for or against the coach of another sport don't have any influence on that analysis.

Plus, trolls and negavols can sense any reference to football (and especially CDD) anywhere on VN and are drawn to it like sharks to blood. Best to just not tempt them.

[zjcvols]

Originally Posted by zansdad

I don't understand it either. I read the football and recruiting boards but I try very hard to not let my interest in one overflow to the other. I think Martin did a wonderful job last year once all things are taken into consideration. My feelings for or against the coach of another sport don't have any influence on that analysis.

Plus, trolls and negavols can sense any reference to football (and especially CDD) anywhere on VN and are drawn to it like sharks to blood. Best to just not tempt them.

I didn't either, but you know how it is. I try my best not to compare Dooley/Martin because it's different, but then I get mad because people have downplayed Martin's job.

[zansdad]

Originally Posted by zjcvols

I didn't either, but you know how it is. I try my best not to compare Dooley/Martin because it's different, but then I get mad because people have downplayed Martin's job.

Some people will just never be happy or enjoy being argumentative. Last I looked, 85%+ of the vote was good or great. That's about as close to consensus as you can get, especially talking sports.

[volbeast33]

Originally Posted by zjcvols

I didn't either, but you know how it is. I try my best not to compare Dooley/Martin because it's different, but then I get mad because people have downplayed Martin's job.

Why would it make you mad? the ones that talk in real bad extremes are just trying to get a reaction from you....I honestly thought we would be a NIT team last yr....I do,however, think he did a good job and the future appears bright. Right now though he still gets an incomplete and has a lot to prove.

[calban]

I was satisfied with last seasons results, but have to admit I was getting a little concerned when we lost to AP at home.
I think we will but if we don't get back to the Sweet 16 this year, those concerns will resurface.
Pulling in Stokes was the biggest plus of Cuonzo's first season and should have the largest effect on the near future as far as recruiting possibilities.
I'm expecting a great season.
Please don't let me down ,Zo.

[JokermanVol]

Volnation is the epitome of black or white train of thought. Everyone's either an un-merited God-like figure or undeservingly a piece of crap with the AIDS.