Vols crack Katz's top-25

[Chris4Vols22]

"I've been told that Oriakhi will be able to play at SEC school if he chooses an area of study that is not offered at UConn"

So I guess he can start a brand new degree program, then drop out after a year. What a joke. This comes no where near a "special exemption" in my eyes.

[Chris4Vols22]

FTR, I dont have anything against Oriakhi. My beef is with Slive.

[zansdad]

Slive came up with the no 1 year transfers after Ole Miss let Missoli(sp?) transfer in after being kicked off the Oregon football team. He had already graduated so they used the NCAA rule that lets a Grad school guy transfer if his post grad degree isn't offered by his current school. It was considered shady for Ole Miss to have done it this way and Slive made a move to stop it happening in the future.

The kid from UCONN can transfer, I believe, because UCONN is facing a post season ban next year. Same way Malik Jackson came to UT and didn't have to sit a year. I am not sure where all the "has to be a major that UCONN doesn't offer" stuff comes into play.

As for the rule and Slive breaking it. It is much easier to have a rule in place and grant exemptions from it than it is to have no rule in place and then arbitrarily try to tell someone "no" they can't transfer. Slive put the rule in place so in the future kids trying to hop schools because of suspensions or something similar, have to go elsewhere. However, they can give waivers when warranted.

If UT was tops on this guys list, we would all be for the waiver.

[Chris4Vols22]

Originally Posted by zansdad

If UT was tops on this guys list, we would all be for the waiver.

This may be true, but I would still acknowledge the hypocrisy, personally.

[zansdad]

Originally Posted by Chris4Vols22

This may be true, but I would still acknowledge the hypocrisy, personally.

I think Slive is in a tight spot. The Masoli thing sat poorly with many people. So Slive, in a knee jerk reaction, took steps to stop it from happening in the future. Now here comes Oriakhi and he has done nothing wrong and wants to transfer to a SEC school. I bet eventually Slive rescinds the rule and SEC schools go back to taking any eligible transfers.

[GatorsGators]

Originally Posted by Chris4Vols22

I have no idea where you're getting the graduate thing. You get 4 years of eligibility in the NCAA, no matter where you are academically. I tried to find the official rule, but this is the closest thing:


Calipari to Meet With Oriakhi: Report | NBC Connecticut

I've heard that the rule only applies to players who have already graduated, but still have one year of eligibility remaining. Oriakhi hasn't graduated yet. Maybe that's wrong, and my bad if it is, but I'm not sure if this new rule applies to him.

I'm not sure that Oriakhi is the answer to any school that is recruiting him, though. It's not like he's been a dominant force in the post the past couple of years.

[zansdad]

Originally Posted by Chris4Vols22

I have no idea where you're getting the graduate thing. You get 4 years of eligibility in the NCAA, no matter where you are academically. I tried to find the official rule, but this is the closest thing:


Calipari to Meet With Oriakhi: Report | NBC Connecticut

If you have finished a Bachelor's degree you can transfer and play immediately at another school as long as that school offers a grad degree program not offered at your current school. You have to have a year of eligibility left to do this. John Fields used it to come here. Woolridge is talking of using it. Greg Paulus even used this rule to play football at Syracuse after playing 4 years of Basketball at Duke.

[Chris4Vols22]

Originally Posted by zansdad

If you have finished a Bachelor's degree you can transfer and play immediately at another school as long as that school offers a grad degree program not offered at your current school. You have to have a year of eligibility left to do this. John Fields used it to come here. Woolridge is talking of using it. Greg Paulus even used this rule to play football at Syracuse after playing 4 years of Basketball at Duke.

Right, this is a valid point, but I don't see how it applies to Oriakhi.

[zansdad]

Originally Posted by Chris4Vols22

Right, this is a valid point, but I don't see how it applies to Oriakhi.

Me either. It was my understanding that he was going to transfer because UCONN was going to be banned from post-season play next year and he was going to request a waiver to play immediately because of that.

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by zansdad

Me either. It was my understanding that he was going to transfer because UCONN was going to be banned from post-season play next year and he was going to request a waiver to play immediately because of that.

Exactly.

However Slives rule doesn't say this type of situation deserves an exemption. In Slives words supposedly the only way is the "John fields" route.

So the whole, making a special expemtion thing is kinda BS in a lot of people's minds. Don't make a rule if a year later you're going to bend it.

[TnScooby]

Wait, where is Candybilt??..Oh, never mind..Guess Old Baldy will take some serious a**kickin's this year..What a shame

[Shaun1985]

The Oriakhi thing is going to be interesting because didn't he committ to UCONN pretty early? Pretty sure he didn't bother with the recruiting stuff of visiting schools and such and signed a LOI as early as possible so it could be anyones game.

[bleedingTNorange]

Hes visiting Xavier today after visiting UK yesterday.


Kind of odd all these visits going on, yet thornwell cancelled his here because he said it was a dead period.