Absolutely Pathetic

[utvolpj]

Originally Posted by Fijivol72

It is surprising and disappointing that CM if you listen to his interview just isn't seeing the same things most of us are. I wish he would show some kind of emotion regardless of his one stare moment.

please don't ever try and pretend you know more about basketball than Coach Martin. Even by your standards it's ridiculous

[BearCat204]

Originally Posted by utvolpj

please don't ever try and pretend you know more about basketball than Coach Martin. Even by your standards it's ridiculous

he has season tickets bro

[1982Alum]

Good shooters don't seem to come to UT anymore. Pearl's last few teams very often shot poorly. Even McBee who is probably their best 3 point shooter is not overall that good. This is why we lose to teams like Austin Peay and MTSU. Poor shooting and no desire for 40 minutes. That's why we are at best an NIT also ran.......

[volfanngaytorland]

Originally Posted by Fijivol72

It is surprising and disappointing that CM if you listen to his interview just isn't seeing the same things most of us are. I wish he would show some kind of emotion regardless of his one stare moment.

...this guy

[Boca Vol]

Originally Posted by 1982Alum

Good shooters don't seem to come to UT anymore. Pearl's last few teams very often shot poorly. Even McBee who is probably their best 3 point shooter is not overall that good. This is why we lose to teams like Austin Peay and MTSU. Poor shooting and no desire for 40 minutes. That's why we are at best an NIT also ran.......

Interesting observation. Did Pearl recruit a pure shooter? I can't recall.

[volfanngaytorland]

Originally Posted by zjcvols

Yeah, it's crazy to think about the improvements Golden, McRae, Maymon, Stokes, and Yemi made throughout the year, and think they will get better during the offseason.

I'm excited about our front line next year. Could be one of the best in the SEC. The future is bright, no question about it.

[NoSoupForU]

Originally Posted by orangeluvr

The Vols were out played and out desired. Also had no answer for the dribble drive.

^ This. CM will use it as motivation this offseason. Tournament basketball is about match ups and given the circumstances (UT = poor shooting, Maymon nursing injury) this one didn't bode well. Just think how Duke and Missouri are feeling right about now.

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by volfanngaytorland

I'm excited about our front line next year. Could be one of the best in the SEC. The future is bright, no question about it.

The worrisome part is that post stokes, we had one of the Better front lines THIS year, but we rarely took advantage.

Perfect example was last night. Maymon, Stokes and Yemi were a combined 13-22(59%), and 11-17(65%)from the line.

The rest of the team was a combined 9-36(25%), and 8-13(62%) from the line.

It doesn't take a genius to see that good things happened EVERY single outposts posts got a good touch down low. At worst, our guards should pound it down low and work inside out. If I was/am CCM I tell guys unless it's a fast break you had better not shoot until either maymon or stokes gets a touch down low.

[johnnybravo]

Originally Posted by volfanngaytorland

I'm excited about our front line next year. Could be one of the best in the SEC. The future is bright, no question about it.

We had a great front line this year. Just didn't get the ball to them.

[johnnybravo]

Originally Posted by bleedingTNorange

The worrisome part is that post stokes, we had one of the Better front lines THIS year, but we rarely took advantage.

Perfect example was last night. Maymon, Stokes and Yemi were a combined 13-22, and 11-17 from the line.

The rest of the team was a combined 9-36, and 8-13 from the line.

It doesn't take a genius to see that good things happened EVERY single time out posts got a good touch down low. At worst, our guards should pound it down low and work inside out. If I was/am CCM I tell guys unless it's a fast break you had better not shoot until either maymon or stokes gets a touch down low.

This is one of the areas that I don't like about CCM playing style. He gives the players free reigns on offense as long as they play hard on defense. You got to give direction at both ends of the court.

[cascade11]

Some people need to step back from the ledge. This team wouldnt have been in the NIT a couple months ago. They have a very good chance to be a top 25 team next year if Golden, Maymon, McRae, and Stokes continue to improve.

[johnnybravo]

Originally Posted by 87Vol

Unless we add a player or two who can consistently shoot the freakin' ball from 3 pt range, next year will be a sad carbon copy of this year. NIT mediocrity.

I totally agree. I keep hearing about being ranked next year...I just don't see it at all. We will be plaqued with the exact same problems next year.

Is McBee finally going to be able to create his own shot?
Is Golden going to quit making stupid mistakes?
I can't see Maymon improving any more than he already has.
Stokes will improve, but will we take advantage of our post players?
Yemi should improve, but again will we take advantage of it or will he continue to get points off rebounds from jacked up 3s?
Is Richardson going to suddenly become an offensive threat?
McCrea? I will just leave it at that.
Is Cheivous going to take up the slack of Tatum's departure - most definitely!!!

I see the same team. We had a very good stretch in mid Jan and Feb. But I saw the exact same team the last 3 games that played mid Dec. even with the addition of Stokes. Unless we add a player or 2 then we will see some of the same type games next year.

So convince me how we are going to become a "ranked team" next year.

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by johnnybravo

This is one of the areas that I don't like about CCM playing style. He gives the players free reigns on offense as long as they play hard on defense. You got to give direction at both ends of the court.

I expect it to change some in the off season, especially with our glaring strength in the post. You have to utilize it.

One major thing I've noticed, and attribute some of this to is this...many of our guards have been here for a few years now. Since they're been here that haven't really had true post guys who want to post up and get the ball down low. It seems like they have a lot of trouble trying to make entry passes into the post. I counted atleast 10 possessions last night in which the guard looked inside but couldn't get it in to them, and as a result that possession ended with a guard shooting.

My hope is that maybe this is one of the big reasons that we haven't seen nearly enough post touches. If that's the case, I'd expect that to be a huge point of emphasis for our guards in the off season. And also for our bigs with hi low action, everyone on the team leaning how to get the ball down low to the guy posting up.

IMO, maymon and stokes are both legitimate 16/10 a night guys, and should see atleast 12-15 shots a game EACH.

[bleedingTNorange]

Originally Posted by johnnybravo

I totally agree. I keep hearing about being ranked next year...I just don't see it at all. We will be plaqued with the exact same problems next year.

Is McBee finally going to be able to create his own shot?
Is Golden going to quit making stupid mistakes?
I can't see Maymon improving any more than he already has.
Stokes will improve, but will we take advantage of our post players?
Yemi should improve, but again will we take advantage of it or will he continue to get points off rebounds from jacked up 3s?
Is Richardson going to suddenly become an offensive threat?
McCrea? I will just leave it at that.
Is Cheivous going to take up the slack of Tatum's departure - most definitely!!!

I see the same team. We had a very good stretch in mid Jan and Feb. But I saw the exact same team the last 3 games that played mid Dec. even with the addition of Stokes. Unless we add a player or 2 then we will see some of the same type games next year.

So convince me how we are going to become a "ranked team" next year.

I tend to agree with this.

I think the difference is this team next year would be a bit better, because they shouldn't lose to the AP of the world, do ultimately they'll probably make the tourny.

But as far as being ranked and vastly improving, I think the biggest key is adding another guard and one who can shoot. I've been preaching Fabyon Harris for about 3-4 months now, before Tennessee even started recruiting him. Add him and many of these issues are immediately fixed IMO.

[volroadwarrior]

I might understand missing some shots, except for 8 full minutes, but MTSU was grabbing all of the offensive rebounds. They just wanted it worse and our guys were sleep walking. They out hustled us 10 to 1. Foul shooting was terrible and would have been a difference maker had we made more of them.