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Old 03-29-2010, 02:22 PM   #31 (permalink)
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You keep throwing out the doubleheader reference, and I have to point out that at the time he was allegedly at the mall, the DH was not scheduled, nor had it been discussed. That change didn't come until 11am Saturday.

But to your other points, you're saying that no coach should take any time off, not even to go to lunch with his wife at the mall, during the season? That's pretty unbelievable.

I still don't know where you keep getting the film thing. Teams only film their own hitters and pitchers. It's not like basketball and football where there is league-mandated trading of film. It doesn't happen. They have scouting reports, but there's not much film out on anyone in the league.

And if you think Delmonico didn't take any time off during the week, you're crazy. Every coach does.
1) Well hello Mr. Mike Hamilton. Didn't know I was talking to such an insider that would be privy to that discussion.

2) I didn't say no coach, I said a coach with his job on the line.

3) Delmonico took time off during the season? Shocker! That's exactly what a mediocre coach does.
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Old 03-29-2010, 02:47 PM   #32 (permalink)
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How do you know he hadn't been working that morning and was on a lunch break?

Geez I can't believe I'm defending Raliegh here....
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Old 03-29-2010, 03:09 PM   #33 (permalink)
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1) Well hello Mr. Mike Hamilton. Didn't know I was talking to such an insider that would be privy to that discussion.
2) I didn't say no coach, I said a coach with his job on the line.
You don't have to be much of an insider to know that the Sunday game wasn't moved until Saturday morning, just look at when the press release was issued.

The SEC won't approve a move like that based on the weather until the day before the scheduled contest. Certainly he knew it was a possibility, everyone involved did seeing the forecast for Sunday as early as Monday. It's always a possibility.

And, again, a coach, even one on the hot seat, can't take an hour to spend with his wife?

I get it, you don't like Raleigh, you don't think he's the right fit. I doubt anyone here would argue with you on that.

But you're making it personal. You tried to stir things up by suggesting he was at the mall an hour and a half before gametime. You defended that statement until it was proven to be impossible. Maybe it all really happened and you were just mistaken on the day, but there's a pretty big difference between Friday and Saturday.

Like I said earlier, there's plenty of on-field stuff to cause fans to dislike CTR. Plenty. It's not fair to him or the team to manufacture off-field controversy to try to add on to that. It's not necessary to make it personal. If you're bad at your job does your boss blame you having long lunches for your lack of ability? Whether it happened or not, it has absolutely no bearing on how the team played Friday, Saturday, whenever. None.
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Old 03-29-2010, 03:49 PM   #34 (permalink)
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1) Well hello Mr. Mike Hamilton. Didn't know I was talking to such an insider that would be privy to that discussion.

2) I didn't say no coach, I said a coach with his job on the line.

3) Delmonico took time off during the season? Shocker! That's exactly what a mediocre coach does.
So a coach with his job on the line should look at his (as you said) 7 month pregnant wife and say "Sorry, I don't have time for you?"

You have much to learn my friend.

I agree Raleigh has done at best a terrible job, but this is a bit over the top.
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:03 PM   #35 (permalink)
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This has turned from a "Todd Raleigh can't coach and says stupid things" thread to bickering with bamacheats (who thinks TR should spend every waking moment at the field and should spend much of that time watching film of the rest of the league.........yeah, a real wealth of baseball knowledge there).

tigervol is right, bamacheats has MUCH to learn about college baseball and life in general.....

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This has turned from a "Todd Raleigh can't coach and says stupid things" thread to bickering with bamacheats (who thinks TR should spend every waking moment at the field and should spend much of that time watching film of the rest of the league.........yeah, a real wealth of baseball knowledge there).

tigervol is right, bamacheats has MUCH to learn about college baseball.....
Not so much about baseball. I've just got an 11 week old and I can still recall exactly what her response would have been if I told her I didn't have time for her because of my job when she was 7 months pregnant.
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This has turned from a "Todd Raleigh can't coach and says stupid things" thread to bickering with bamacheats (who thinks TR should spend every waking moment at the field and should spend much of that time watching film of the rest of the league.........yeah, a real wealth of baseball knowledge there).

tigervol is right, bamacheats has MUCH to learn about life.....
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Rod never, ever through his players under the bus. It was always "We".
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Rod never, ever through his players under the bus. It was always "We".
And after having a losing SEC record in 8 of his last 10 seasons, he got to say "we" a lot.

If he was all about "we" then why did you post mostly individual honors to support him? Because, as the stats show his "teams" were largely a failure, absent a couple of decent years that ended in improbable runs to the CWS?

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Rod never, ever through his players under the bus. It was always "We".
Sure he didn't, Mrs. Delmonico.
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Rod never, ever through his players under the bus. It was always "We".
No he just guided his teams to sub .500 SEC records the majority of his last 10 years.
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It's not uncommon for coaches to do normal things like going to the mall. I saw Bruce at Dillard's West Town the day of a game this season picking up a new set of suits that had been altered. I've seen coaches of other sports eating at the food court or just walking around. Most teams go to a mall on road trips to get out of the arena-food-hotel rut.

While I agree that if it was an hour and a half before a game it would be ridiclious, but that's not exactly the way it happened. Friday at 1:30 I could see. That's why I said you were mistaken.

What exactly could he have been doing at that moment that would have made any difference? There was no breakthrough that he was going to make that would have been the winning edge. It's not football or basketball where you've got gametape to pour over to find tendencies. And if a coach was waiting until gameday to figure out the gameplan, then I'd be really worried.

Look, there's enough out there on Raleigh to seal his fate at the end of the year. Piling on a guy for spending some time with his wife in the middle of the day on a Friday is really unnecessary, in my opinion.

Again, if it had been just before first pitch, that's one thing, but it wasn't.

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