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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA  you would think since he's a QB, but he's an elite SS prospect. | He pitches too. Quote:
Originally Posted by Midfielder10 does Kelly do any pitching? | He throws heat as a pitcher but is a better SS. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a SS and a Closer if he ever makes it to UT.
The first mock draft I saw had him as a first rounder and he was shooting up draft boards.
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05-04-2008, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dude Yes, but to play football. With his pedigree and the fact that he's committed to the football team, I'd bet he'll be drafted in the first five to ten rounds and sign. | Have you ever heard of Todd Helton?
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Originally Posted by The Dude He's not the most likely to go to college and play baseball. No way. | Yes way, out of the top 10-15 baseball prospects he's the most likely to go to college.
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05-04-2008, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA Have you ever heard of Todd Helton? | They were not tossing around money so deep in the draft back in the early ninties. If Helton was drafted in the second round, as I believe he was by the Padres out of HS, he would get about a million dollars signing bonus for draft position only, then some more if the big league team wanted to "buy" him out of playing the highly dangerous position of football quarterback with more cash. | |
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05-04-2008, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA Yes way, out of the top 10-15 baseball prospects he's the most likely to go to college. | That's not what I said. You're missing the "and play baseball" part. Sonny Gray is much more likely to play baseball at Vandy than Kelly is at UT. Generally, the elite guys going to great academic schools are more likely to go to college, mainly b/c these schools are very expensive and they offer to pay for most or all of the education. | |
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Originally Posted by The Dude They were not tossing around money so deep in the draft back in the early ninties. If Helton was drafted in the second round, as I believe he was by the Padres out of HS, he would get about a million dollars signing bonus for draft position only, then some more if the big league team wanted to "buy" him out of playing the highly dangerous position of football quarterback with more cash. | He will probably never play a down for the football team, but he would be an instant star on the baseball team. But the reason why people won't pick him is because they're unsure if he will fulfill his commitment here, and you don't waste a draft pick in the early rounds if you're not sure they will play or not. The easiest way to get him here would to hire Scott Boras as his agent.
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| WTF? The only reason a MLB would pass on Kelly, other than wanting someone else, would be him playing college football. Yet you say he's not good enough to ever play QB at UT. So what exactly is the leverage here? | |
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05-04-2008, 08:46 AM
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| You can play college football and pro baseball in the summers, you know. Granted that's not ideal for either party (college team or MLB org), if a player is good enough both sides will allow it. | |
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Originally Posted by The Dude WTF? The only reason a MLB would pass on Kelly, other than wanting someone else, would be him playing college football. Yet you say he's not good enough to ever play QB at UT. So what exactly is the leverage here? | Football is a plus for him here, his main sport would be baseball.
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Originally Posted by The Dude You can play college football and pro baseball in the summers, you know. Granted that's not ideal for either party (college team or MLB org), if a player is good enough both sides will allow it. | I seriously doubt that. | |
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| Wouldn't that be against NCAA rules, since he would be in college and getting paid.
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Originally Posted by VOLNBAMA Wouldn't that be against NCAA rules, since he would be in college and getting paid. | yes | |
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Originally Posted by chavisut I seriously doubt that. | I thought Doug Johnson played during the summers when he was at Florida.
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